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hey guys Stefan here from Kindle money
mastery I'm here at my brother's cabin
right now on the beautiful lake as you
can see behind us this is my brother
Andreas and my brother here has been a
mentor in my life and he's also someone
that has achieved incredible success
with Kindle publishing in a very short
period of time and so while we're up
here is kind of talking Kindle and
brainstorming and stuff and I thought
it'd be a really good idea just to
interview him and ask him questions and
have him share a bit of his story about
his life and how he got to where he is
achieving the success and everything
he's done but also specifically with
Kindle what he's been able to create
that could hopefully inspire you guys
and share some practical stuff to help
you guys build your Kindle business so
thank you for taking this time of me
great and if you want to maybe start off
just by sharing a little bit about just
your background about what you've done
before Kindle because I think one thing
that's really inspiring about you and
you've been a role model for me is
because you started off you know we had
a similar childhood but you had it worse
with our dad you started off in the
family business yeah you've been to you
know a lot of debt in your life and
financial challenges yeah yeah I'm able
to come out the other side becoming a
multi-millionaire creating this
incredible lifestyle so you want to
share this story for people yeah sure I
we have the same father as you know and
we both grew up in an environment where
the family business European style Greek
family business was the all of
set for us by our father that we had to
go into the family business and we had
to take it and run with it
and follow and do someone else's dreams
which wasn't our dreams and the
challenge of breaking away from that was
a challenge of its own but I had it the
worst because I was the oldest son and I
was there's quite a bit of an age
difference seven years between or long
or more behind my sister nine between my
brother and I so I was in there
managing and running the company at the
age of fourteen fifteen years old I was
starting to work in the company and by
the time I graduated my future was
already decided by my father I I passed
on scholarships for school down in the
States due to I play soccer at a high
level and had opportunities that I
waived because I had pressure from the
family too from my father specifically
to take over the family business and and
although our we get a lot of our
entrepreneurial skills and ability to to
run a business and successfully from our
father because he's very creative and
very intelligent in that fat in that
manner he lacks a lot of the skills that
are required to take a business to the
next level and because of those skills
he put myself into a very bad financial
position because he put me as the
figurehead of the company although he
made the final decision I was sort of
the name behind the company that
eventually went under and so that was
difficult being 18 19 years old and
stepping into those shoes and even
though running the company was not the
problem I had the skills of doing that
the poor management decisions in regards
to the finances of the company was
horrible or yeah by our dad he was very
bad at managing money and a skill that
I'm very good at yeah
and just did you know will maybe go in
specifics about the type of business
that you got involved in and just kind
of the lifestyle that you went into but
most of our childhood we grew up with a
lot of financial challenges you know our
parents were always fighting over money
our dad you know even though he was
always entrepreneurial just didn't know
how to manage money the right way and so
we always in our parents went to a
bankruptcy and there's just a lot of
challenges growing up financially which
you know we had to go through but you
want to share a little bit about the
businesses that you've worked in how
young you're working in just your
lifestyle as a kid because yeah in
childhood delirious I'm just playing and
having fun
yeah exactly I mean I was I was nine
years old and I was going with with dad
to do tile jobs and I was grouting
floors at nine years old while all my
fish and stuff construction stuff and
although I benefit
substantially from it now because that's
what I'm in and you can imagine at nine
years old until you're 24 23 24 years
old and finally going on your own
starting a company I had a world of
experience when it came to construction
we went from businesses that were from
the tile business to the glass business
to the bathtub business into a
restaurant business it was always
business he was an entrepreneurial
creating businesses he just was not very
entrepreneurial in managing a business
and that is the key business's common
sense and he maybe was beyond common
sense he didn't apply common sense he
applied theory and so that's a whole
topic of its own but those experiences
of all those different types of job
professions that he jumped from I kind
of just dragged along and then when I
became a legal age I was put at the
forefront and at this business he would
sell me on the idea of a successful
business this is yours this is your
venture and good morning and this
venture and but the reality was there
was no hope yes for this F and it wasn't
what you wanted to do through my no more
when we're dad wanted us exactly it
didn't it it didn't thrive I didn't
propel me and excitement it kind of just
became a it was truly just a job and
although every type of work is a job you
should love what you do and I love what
I do now but I still even though I'm
successful at what I do now I still
believe in diversity I still believe
that you don't necessarily have to do
one thing in your life for your whole
life that if you create opportunities
that you might find something that you
even like even more and I have found
something now with Kindle that excites
me that is new because I have sort of I
guess you could say mastered my
profession to a point where I am content
with without growing it anymore because
I realize what is involved in growing it
more and I don't want to put that effort
into that I'd rather manage my time into
something different
and open a new chapter in my life
and so to get back to running off the
the family business I went into the
family business and be from nine years
old you're working in the family
business until I was about well until I
left on my own to 2324 when I turn 18 we
opened a company that I was going to
take over and was in mining and when you
turn 18 you all of a sudden have
opportunities to borrow money and I was
still young and naive and thought that
if you borrow money and invest it into
your company that no matter how you
invest it that it will grow in and
you'll make more money problem was that
that theory did not work when my dad was
involved and so soon enough I started to
accumulate a lot of debt that now was in
my name and before you know it I'm 22
years old four years had blown by and I
was in debt and I was in the family
business Welch I was running and wasn't
really making any money and so finally I
had to make a decision in my life that
which was difficult to break ties from
from our dad it's very difficult we're
still every day a challenge for us and
so we decided I decided that I had an
opportunity that came up that I was able
to go to Europe and play soccer at a
very high level and make a little bit
money doing so so I I took the
opportunity it was very difficult in the
family it's a very hard on my father it
put him in a very bad place and maybe a
strain on a relationship but I think it
was a turning point in my life it gave
me the courage most importantly that I
needed to start my life over and I still
to this day don't think it was about me
going and playing soccer it was about me
going and figuring out myself evolving
as a person which is what Stefan is all
about
he's about growth and evil and and and
human progress as an individual and and
that's or where he motivates me and why
I've spent the last five six years of my
life implementing a lot of those things
and improving my family life with my
wife and my kids and my lifestyle where
I am today which you know is what I call
the Greek retreat is my place of Zen
my therapy I come up here and I relax
and I enjoy my life and that's what you
have to do with all your kindle success
and so I went to went to Europe yep I it
was it was life-changing soon as I
stepped off the plane and I'm sure
Stefan's got story after story about his
traveling experiences everybody should
do it and I went and I played soccer and
when I decided after my time there that
this was not the career that I wanted
soccer I decided to come back to back
home to my family my friends and which I
missed dearly and I decided to go back
to school I did go back and work for my
dad I felt that I had to because I still
needed some kind of work and some kind
of making some money and it was the
easiest but I had a plan that I was
going to gradually how do you think
you'd like and I think it's a hard for a
lot of people to make that decision what
made you finally have to make the
decision to kind of go on your own and
look at different ways and I think you
had to go through the process of trying
to find herself and find what you wanted
to do and well the reality is you just I
got to a point in my life where I just
felt the best analogy that I can put it
is that I was in a in a room that was a
circle with no door and and I just felt
like everywhere I turned it all looked
the same and there was there was no
future for me and when you get to that
point in your life where you're just you
feel like you're a puppet and everybody
controls the strings you finally decide
you want to break those strings and you
want to control your own life and the
only way you can do that is to go out
there and get it I didn't know how I was
going to go out and get it you went
forth I went I went falling I turned out
in Greece or whatever I didn't know and
I left behind
I left my boy my little puppy my dog who
I become close to because he was my best
friend
during those tough times and I left that
behind and my only asset which was a
jeep and obviously our dad disapproved
of it all is hard going against that but
sometimes you got to do it
exactly and you know there was a lot of
unresolved answers or questions I had
debt that I had accumulated and I
finally just said to him you know what
I've done enough for you this family
you're going to take care of this for me
and I'm going to go figure my life out
and that was the hardest thing I had to
do in my life and for four people out
there this may not be a similar
situation it could be something else
that's difficult in your life something
that you have to overcome a stepping
stone and so this is just easy because
Steph and I have something similar that
we went through and we've motivated
ourselves found way to motivate and in
some way it's a blessing because we have
used our Father and our experience our
relationship with him to make to build
success and and I'm all about my brother
I do everything I can to help him I've
tried to give him guidance wherever I
can and he's been inspirational to me
because not only when you give someone
guidance and give them advice but when
they actually listen to it and then and
then it comes to fruition for them it's
it's like a real pat on your back you
didn't make anything from it but you
helped somebody truly in their life and
then and in a way this is what he's
doing for me by just me sitting here and
talking to you I love this I love being
able to share my story because my wife
is tired of hearing it to be honest
right so but I did it I stepped up to
him and which was the hardest challenge
and then from that point on he was like
the person the wall that I had to go
over and once I did that it seemed like
nothing wasn't doable everything was
achievable anything I set my mind to I
could do I went to Europe I played
soccer I knew that I could do it but it
wasn't what I wanted to do and right
then I knew that I had control of my
life because even though I stepped in
from one situation into another I could
have gone there I could have played
soccer I could have toughed it out for
10 years I could have made X amount of
dollars but I would still be in the same
boat at 30 you know at 30 years old 32
years old not knowing what my life and
my future was and - a lot of people
playing soccer having the career in
soccer is a dream you know I have
friends who would love to have had that
opportunity but for me knowing that I
could pass on it and was and was happy
with it
and that there was a better future for
me out there
that was what changed my life and from
that point on a backpack through Europe
Greece and I visited the rest of my
family and I had all of a sudden it all
came to me it just said you're gonna do
this you're going to do that you're
going to achieve this you're going to
achieve that I didn't really set goals
that I would be a millionaire by thirty
years old and then a multi-millionaire
and now I uh
there's goals along the way that you set
because you achieve them and you and you
and you you challenge yourself more but
making money is fantastic it provides
this and opportunities but it's more of
the success story going from being a
debtor and from what I learn and who you
become and who you inspire is inspiring
people the most influential people in
the world are the ones that inspire you
to be you to achieve your goals and so I
I played soccer I backpacked and then
when I came back I decided to go back to
school I figured it was a smartest thing
for me to go into business because I had
all the life experience of running the
company from start to finish and dealing
with with people in marketing and and
the the face to face interactions with
sales and and staff and and everything
that goes along with the business so
that part I had covered but I wanted to
I wanted to take it up a notch and I
wanted to be what our dad wasn't and and
that is to have the skills of managing a
company efficiently reliably all the
things that you need for a company to
grow to to improve a company and become
to become a company that survives and so
I can went back and I did six long years
at did a double major at SFU all at the
same time though you're that credit card
yeah I I came I came back I registered
for school I didn't know how I was going
to pay for it and I had the debt that
was still to be paid off I consolidated
all my debt
ripped off all my cards and I wasn't an
access for my father for funding anymore
I put my foot down there and all of a
sudden I had all these strengths to to
say no to whoever I wanted to I had all
this confidence because I just hit that
first step and it just compound
and it was like for the first time my
life everything was upwards upwards one
after the other and so then I I came
back and I he discouraged it all by the
debt because we need oh yeah they have
this huge amount of debt and they're
just paralyzed by it yeah we were
actually you're like um you created a
plan for yourself of what you're gonna
do yeah you know I used to get teased by
friends because I came back and I
consolidated my debt and I put it all
into a 30-month program to pay it back
month by month and I every month that go
by I'd count it down and I I'd say to my
cousin I call and I'd say to my friends
I got 27 months to go and I'm out of
debt yeah and they would laugh and say
27 minds and that's so far away yeah but
before you know it I was down to seven
months and six months and all of a
sudden I had started not only working
for the family and not making much money
but paying for my school I started doing
side jobs I taken all my experience from
from construction and started doing some
side work and now I not only had paid
for school without borrowing I had I was
paying off my loan faster and I had had
a savings account and even though it was
a small savings account that first
dollar you start saving for the first
time in your life at the age of 25 years
old it's inspirational it's motivation
yeah right because it's like how do I
make the next dollar yeah and before it
rots yeah and before you know I do one
dollar is ten dollars and ten dollars
$100 and $100 a thousand and and where I
am today you know where I have the
freedom to make a purchase spontaneously
if I like to and and and I mean that's
why I'm here today
that's why I'm here to tell you that I
was an average person that sorry about
constructions because there are many
people that paddle go by so I know it's
a real life yeah yeah so but you know
that's why I wanted to tell this story
because I said to Steph you've got all
these people that you need but a lot of
them don't come from the same roots that
some of us might come from that we had
tribulation difficulties from a young
age and we had obstacles that a lot of
us just can't get over but I'm here to
tell you you can you can you can you can
be in debt and I was in debt you know I
was thirty forty thousand dollars in
debt at the age of eighteen nineteen
years old and and that's a lot of money
I mean to get out of right and it took
me until I was 24 25 years old where I
had I had paid off all that debt and I
had exceeds enough money and I had met
my lovely wife whoo-hoo-hoo I've been
together now for 15 years and or 14
years and and she was with it through it
all she was there when she met me when I
was in debt she was motivation to me to
remind me that it's great you're doing
it and and everybody needs that it's a
big part is to be surrounded by people
who who who motivate you who tell you
you're doing great job there's nothing
wrong with that you need to hear it and
the more you hear it the better it is
the better you're going to keep going
and striving yourself and rolling and
yeah so I soon as I got out of debt it
was like the plane took off yeah
and so what so happened for you though
so you're in debt and all throughout
this process of going to Europe going to
school and everything but while you're
going to school you're going to school
in the evenings yeah and I was taking
off the debt pay for your school yeah
and at what point did you get yourself
out of that you see you're taking some
side jobs constructionwise yeah I was
about a year into after about six months
back from Europe I was six months into
school I was taking three courses at a
time and I managed to pay for those and
I started at a college which was cheaper
and then from there I I paid for that
and then after about six months I
started to see some opportunities
friends came to me and and do small jobs
you know tile jobs here and there and
and all of a sudden where I was making
nothing for my father family business
it's not what it's cracked out to be you
don't get a salary you don't get you
just get whatever's left over and
usually that's nothing and so all of a
sudden you know I was making this extra
money that's like geez I can do a job
and make a thousand dollars in the day
you know because I I was I could do
tiling which people did for 20 years but
I had done it since I was nine ten years
old there was a trade that I learned I
didn't realize the gifts that I was
given by my father because he was the
type that threw us into the fire that's
that was what was beneficial from him he
would he was not he didn't give you a
chart say do this or guidelines he threw
you in there and he'd say you're gonna
do this this is you do it when you learn
from your mistake and then that is
valuable on its own and that's what we
benefited
that's why we're both successful today
because we when we take a chance we're
willing to learn from the mistake and
grow from it and you have to every
successful businessman is gonna is going
to learn from a mistake and that's just
the way it is you're going to lose money
and you're good but the chance the thing
is you want to learn from it you got to
implement what you learn from it so you
can make money from it and so I have to
back to the store after about six months
I started doing side jobs and then I met
my wife and and then it was about I was
about a year and a half I was into
University College I started up my
company I had an opportunity to break
away from the family business I I got
hurt working for my father and so I had
to take some time off and from there
when I took the time off I saw it as an
opportunity to have that free time to
push the side business which was
renovations and it was during the boom
here in Vancouver where we live
construction was in high demand and so
the timing was just right I had was
lucky I had a bit of timing that was
involved because all good businesses
have luck too
it's just a reality of it you can be as
smart as you want but you got to have
some luck and and so I did it I just
threw myself in I when I took the time
off going through my reaiiy had hurt
myself and gone through my
rehabilitation I decided not to go back
to my fault family business and just go
out on my own and all of a sudden the
small jobs the thousand dollar jobs
turned into five thousand dollar jobs
and the ten thousand dollar jobs and
then a hundred thousand dollar jobs and
then all of a sudden I created a website
portfolio for the company and then from
the rare it just it grew and then
eventually what happened is it started
to conflicted with school I would have
loved to have gone on to do a master's
down the road in my life I'd love to
teach at a university especially one
that would be more technical more
hands-on for entrepreneurial young
entrepreneurial that's that's been a
lifelong goal and dream of mine and want
later on in life when I'm done managing
all my companies I'd like to pass pay it
forward I've had a lot of inspirational
mentors for
me that have helped me in my ventures as
I not only have construction company
I've got a portfolio about real estate
assets
I'm also heavily invested in other
portfolios like on investing in stocks
and bonds and I have a large portfolio
and so those are those are businesses of
their own full-time businesses and so
I've diversified myself very well to a
point now where I can sit here on my
lake and do an interview about a new
potential business that's the Jindal
business yeah and yeah so the company
took off this is my ninth year in
renovations I do anywhere from 800 to
1.2 million dollars in gross revenue hi
its self managing in the sense that most
of my crew is outsourced I don't have a
labor force which reduces a lot of
stress I've managed my company that well
I mean I grew my company at a
significant pace you know within within
my first year I made more money than
twice as much money as working for the
family business yeah and I had a huge
profit I remember even my accountant
making the joke and saying you made a
profit in your first year which
companies typically don't you know by
the I'd say fifth or sixth year I had
grown into a 1.2 million dollar company
and with just myself managing and then
my substrates and at that point in my
life I decided that I had made enough
money I didn't want to push the company
to for me to push the company to the
next level I would have to hire staff I
would have to maybe have an office I
would have to grow it to a new level and
have the responsibilities of more jobs
creating a certain amount of income to
pay for the growth and I kind of decided
that it's not what I wanted isn't
construction wasn't something that I
want to do for the rest of my life yeah
I had mastered it in the sense of
managing the project from start to
finish at an efficient scale that's why
I get a lot of my work I'm very
efficient at my job and so the company
grew to a point where I was content with
and so I pulled back a bit and I kind of
now just float with the company it's
pretty much guaranteed certain amount of
sales every year I know my cash flows I
know what I can spend what I can't spend
and I've taken the
cash flows and invested in other assets
to diversify along the way and now I
have a substantial amount of wealth that
I am able to look other ventures other
opportunities and and that's why I am
today where you know I'm still doing
construction heavily act but I work
about six months a year in construction
you know I make a very good living I
make most more than most doctors and
lawyers who spend their life going to
school and it's not to brag or not to
show off in any way it's just that
anybody can take a profession and make
and cap it out and and to do that you
have to be good at it and you have to be
efficient at it and you have to have a
good reputation you have to be
responsible reliable and have a lot of
qualities that people need and I'm in a
profession where a lot of contractors
don't have a good reputation so it makes
it even easier it makes the barrier hard
to get into but once you get past the
barrier you're rid your reputation is
everything
and I built a good reputation where
people are willing to wait for my
services willing to pay my price and are
and will get and will expect and will
get what that I offer and so and and so
so you built your business of the last
ten years yeah you've been successful
with that you've also been very
successful investing and he's actually
my mentor when it comes to investing
give me my all the advice invest my
first investment property stocks mutual
funds he's a person that I go to for
that so you've been able to share a lot
of that with me and that's something
that is also a passion for you and I
think it's important that when you make
money it's not just about making it's
how you manage it what you do with it
right you've mastered that as well
exactly
and now you've kind of gone in you know
despite all the success you're getting
into a new venture which has been
internet marketing yeah and Kindle
publishing yeah and I know a lot of
people you know because Andreas is
active in the Facebook group that we
have in the full disclosure and a lot of
people ask you you know how are you
doing this Kindle stuff yeah you know
why why are you doing you're a
multi-millionaire got you know your
cabin your house your car's all sort of
stuff why you know why are you doing the
Kindle stuff
you do something for so long and then
you become so good at it you start to
lose your motivation to do that task you
know I mean even the the best athletes
in the world who make millions of
hundreds of millions of dollars at some
point in their life they love their
sport but they retire some retire early
some net can let go but there are many
athletes who are really good at what
they do made millions and retired early
because it's just not what they love to
do anymore what is to lose the drive
they learn the drive for it because they
just they're good at it and then it's
not them being cocky it's not them
saying that I'm not too good for this
anymore it's just once that drive is
gone
you kind of you're you don't want to be
I don't want to be back where I was when
I was 18 years old and sometimes I feel
like that when you're just going through
the motions and your company's making
you the money that you want you're
buying the things that you like and
you're doing all the things that you
want to do so what inspires you after
that well you have to go out there and
find it the same way I did when I was 22
years old and breaking ties for my dad
and that's what I did when Stefan
brought up the Kindle business a few
years ago because he's been on it for a
while I kind of shrugged and laughed and
said didn't really pay attention to it
much maybe it was just my ego maybe it
was just I was too consumed with what
was going on at the time but in the last
year because I pulled back in my company
in the amount of time that I work I have
a lot of free time and I spend a lot of
free time up here so now the question is
what do I do with my free time I have a
lot of hobbies I place as fish and I
hunt and ie TV and snowmobile I got a
lot of things that kill my time but they
still don't inspire me what inspires me
is I like making money it's not even
about the money it really it's just
about I like taking a venture and
growing it to what I I feel that I'm
content with yeah and I've done that
with real estate I've done that with my
stock portfolio I've done that with my
construction and so now I want to do
something new and internet and and
because I'm here a lot I think well what
can I do that's here and
and and and work and because I like
working I like okay guys so the camera
just got cut off there sec you want to
just continue saying what you're saying
about why you got into the Kindle and
you're living up here and you're looking
for look at the opportune turn ette as
an opportunity to make money yeah yeah
well where I am up here in the caribou
it's five hours away from the big city
and it's quite remote and so getting an
internet signal is possible but it's
it's a challenge of its own there's ways
that we're going to we're going to set
that up but I wanted to do something
where because now I've scaled back on my
company from two six months of the year
I got six months that I'd like to do
another venture and so I want to do it
spending up here because ultimately this
is where I want to be this is where I'm
at peace with myself and I love the
environment that it provides and so I
wanted a venture that I could I could I
could be at I could sit here and I could
be on my computer I could you know do
something that could reach out to people
and opportunities and an adventure that
down the road I think that's why I like
the Kindle business is because it's a
platform for opportunities not only to
learn the internet but its potential of
its scale of economies so to say is that
as opportunities are endless there are
so many ventures that you can do from
the push of a button of your mouse and
and so the Kindle business is great for
anybody who wants to come in and to not
only learn how to operate a computer
efficiently but - it forces you to get
into some programs like leadpages and
what Aweber and using KDP and just the
simple things like that that they're
just stepping stones and I mean prior to
the Kindle business I started the Kindle
business April 1st was when I launched
my first book and with my wife and and
prior to that I was intimidated by the
computer I knew how to operate emails
and you know I have a website for my
company and and the basics but HTML and
some of these other types of downloading
and formatting and things like that they
intimidated me and they were a barrier
for me into entering the online business
and so Stefan's program is
is great because it walks you through
all of this and so I used his program
and and because I'm keen and I'm
aggressive and motivated and I have so
much experience and management and even
how to run a business efficiently I was
able in since April first to accumulate
115 books with another 3040 coming and
30 paperbacks and that's growing
everyday and generate a revenue of 660
$500 a month and in the scale of what I
do for outside of Kindle business it's
it's not a lot of money but I managed to
do that in four months and hassle and
it's possible because now I have a whole
crew of EA's that manage all my accounts
I'm sorry to say but I will be stepping
away from the cam Facebook group you
won't see me as much anymore I will go
on from time to time and you exchanges
yeah there are the exchanges I'll be
gone I hope that I'll be able to help
some of you and still and come on there
and answer questions and so forth so I
will do that but I feel that the book
the Kindle business has gotten to a
point now where I can't do those things
anymore
I wanted to do them the Stephan
encourages bas and to do that I because
I'm hands-on in my companies I wanted to
learn the process I thought it would be
a better business owner of it down the
road and so now when a problem arises
with my VA s or anything to do with the
Kindle business because I had first-hand
experience managing it doing it it runs
more efficiently and that's the key here
because once you get to a certain point
in the Kindle business book publishing
if you are going to get to that point if
you if that's what your goal is you get
to a certain point we have so many books
you just can't manage them yourself
there it's a business and that's the
reality of it too once you publish one
book there are four or five things that
you have to do to keep the sales going
on that book and you can imagine that
when you have a hundred books you're 500
times the amount of things that you have
to do and so the process of getting bas
and and and outsourcing all of that has
been relatively easy for me because
that's what I do for a living I'm a
contractor I manage people and manage
what they do and I and I find ways to
get the best out of those people
in a short period of time and I've
learned a lot from you in terms of his
ability with his business experience of
what he's been able to do because I
think one you're one of the fastest
people have ever seen implement what you
learn from my course and you know I've
talked about this before in previous
videos but my brother would have learned
from him stuff but his speed of
implementation where the moment you have
an idea or an opportunity you don't
hesitate you don't procrastinate sit
there trying to analyze all that you
just do it no and so you scaled up the
Kindle so fast and a lot of how you've
outsourced to automated things that
you've done I've learned from him but
it's just blown my mind how fast he's
been able to do it and part of it you've
had all these great qualities which i
think is important for success because
I've seen some people have my course and
kind of been held back other people they
take it they have a lot of success but
you've been able to do it at a huge
scale and I think you didn't know you
didn't know any of this stuff
internet marketing computer stuff you
didn't know what to learn everything is
all that sort of stuff
yeah but you learned it fast you did it
and you implemented it and and and here
you are now the opportunity that he has
is just even larger yeah cuz well it's
open its opening doors because now I'm
taking some of the products that I've
marketed on Kindle yeah in Kindle and
I'm going to be creating a blog that my
wife will be managing and it's sort of
along the lines of the products that she
loves and and there's an opportunity
that was created that wasn't there four
months ago and it's motivated her I mean
she this has been I mean I'm a
motivational own for her I'm always on
her because she's the officer to me and
so but this this Kindle business has
opened the eyes to her potential I mean
it really is it truly is and it's and
it's just the opportunities are there
and it's just a matter of how much you
want it
and how much you apply the teachings
that Stephan has there you set up a
great platform for you for a low cost
and for what I think is a low cost
because the return on it I mean it's
amazing comparable to education go to
university more people invest and those
yeah guards well I mean when I look at
it because I relate everything to
business and so I look at everything in
an investment perspective and and so I
look at it okay
when I buy a stock I want to know how
much I'm going to invest in what percent
I'm going to get back and I do the same
in my business decisions for my company
how much I'm going to put into a project
and how much I'll get back and with the
Kindle business honestly I think it's
it's more powerful and more potential
because there isn't too many businesses
where you can take 50 dollars and grow
it make your money back in the first
month because that's what you got to
look at in any business you got to look
at what you put in how fast you can get
it back and in most companies you can't
do that you had to dance a long term
investment and although I've had the
ability to turn a profit immediately in
most of my ventures it that's just
because I have the experience my
lifelong experience my difficulties in
life I've been able to capitalize on
learning curve and so here I am and I've
done the same for the Kindle business
and I'm going to branch out and I'm
going to get into other things and we'll
talk about those in a bit but that
that's that's why I got into the Kindle
business and that's why I I see the
potential I think that I will make more
money somewhere down the line from all
of this then even that I have
accumulated in my wealth in my portfolio
of project companies that I have now
just because the revenue stream is
endless you're reaching people on other
ends of the world that you can't reach
locally here with what the company you
had I could if I grew my company if I
decided to take my my construction
company and grow it to a North American
company that would travel all over the
world and build and I have I have
designers I do work with that done that
they've expanded their company and
they're in Thailand doing projects but I
have a family and that's important value
to me and I don't want to get into all
that I I want to I want to pick my
career in my future and I have the
ability to do that it's also I mean the
internet I think you're learning now
that the power of is the passive income
where you can be free you make money
while your society I mean I am not
exchanging your time for money and you
know right now we're having this
interview people are buying our books
yeah we're making money you know it's
all silly I mean I go to sleep at night
and I wake up and I've sold yeah I mean
I don't I don't have any look at how
many books you sold and yeah I sold
books
exactly and they're books that I mean I
have books that I don't even focus on
anymore
are in the back and all I do is my
promotions or my VA s do the promotions
and that's all that they required and
and and then it's growing I mean the
Kindle business is growing and and the
more it grows the better it is for you
and for Amazon because the more put
money that Amazon makes the more they're
going to pump money into their big
company their huge company and they
reach markets that we can't reach and so
don't think that this will become
saturated we're a small piece of the pie
and and those others years of making
money here and opportunities so you jump
on it and go with it but also keep in
the back of your mind other
opportunities not don't just stick your
Kindle diversify because like anything
in this world you have to diversify and
that's what I'm doing I'm taking Kindle
and I'm going to diversify into blogging
and and hopefully coaching and and
things like that and and so that's why
that's why we did this interview really
is to reach out to you everybody in the
group to let you know who I am that
annoying guy that's on Facebook all the
time and sending out messages and that
there's a face behind it all
and I thought my story could help people
you know that my that it's been a
lifelong it's been it's been a long 20
years since I graduated high school and
I mean what I've learned just in the
last 10 years has been the most powerful
thing in the world and and it's
infectious it's infectious when you
start to not only create wealth you
start to green confidence and you start
to gain to gain an internal power that
it's infectious it people are drawn to
you people want to be around you I
always got there was always I have
mentors I have people that have been who
are Multi multi millionaires maybe even
a billionaire who have mentored me who
have given their time and energy and for
no reason I had nothing to offer them
but they paid it forward and that's what
I'm going to do one day I anybody who
comes to me and that's what I've done to
Stefan and and I have friends and and
even even workers that work for me who
come to me for advice on their finances
and and I help them because I feel like
I have to because somebody helped me you
don't necessarily have to have someone
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