Can Gaming Laptops
Replace the Desktop? #Helpful Post
hey
guys this is Austin computers have
been
getting smaller and smaller ever
since
the days of mainframes now it just
makes
sense right as technology advances
you
want to put it into more more
portable
form factors so an Nvidia
reached
out and want to sponsor a video
on
the brand-new Acer predator Titan 500
it
felt like the perfect time to ask our
laptops
killing desktops and yeah that's
a
big question and only 18 millimeters
thick
and just over two kilos and wait
this
is a great example of how a laptop
like
this could not have existed even a
couple
years ago the entire chassis is
made
of metal it has a narrow bezel
display
which is not only bright and
fairly
vibrant but importantly it does
have
a full 144 Hertz refresh rate over
double
what you would find on most other
non
gaming laptops these days now this
version
of the Triton does have an RT X
2060
inside so it will support g-sync
via
an external display but if you were
able
to upgrade this to the 2080 version
of
the Triton it has g-sync on the
internal
display which keeps things
looking
even smoother onboard you also
have
killer doubleshot pro essentially
this
can take advantage of both Ethernet
and
Wi-Fi at the same time to route your
traffic
through whichever is faster
something
that's hard to get across it's
just
a level of Polish fit and finish
with
this laptop I mean nine does it
look
clean with all the blue lighting
although
of course that this RGB but on
top
of that you've got the little things
which
are absolutely nailed this is one
of
the best touch pads I've ever used on
any
Windows laptop the keyboard is also
great
and that screen really does sell
the
idea this is a super-fast gaming
laptop
even when you're not even gaming
right
I mean stuff like web browsing is
still
much much smoother than on pretty
much
any other laptop and that is a big
big
plus so if we get back to the idea
that
laptops are coming close to the
replacing
desktops one of the very first
things
you have to acknowledge is that
laptops
have all hot less space to deal
with
but it also fits in your backpack
so
you know there's that this might
sound
obvious but there are some major
advantages
going with a desktop Tower
so
the big ones is on the power side of
things
so now that the desktop not have
to
worry about things like battery life
as
long as you've got mom paying the
electricity
bill you're totally fine one
of
the bigger issues is the actual
cooling
aspect of things as you can see
with
a tower like this you can load it
up
with fans RGB is liquid cooling all
that
is no problem so things can be run
at
much much higher clock speeds it's
just
really not a big issue but when you
come
over to a laptop which is less than
and
spin certain sacrifices
to
be made but you know what those
sacrifices
are getting smaller and
smaller
every year this delivers a very
similar
level of performance to this
giant
tower right in front of me if we
come
back to the Triton 500 you'll see
that
a large part of this design is
entirely
dedicated to keeping the laptop
cool
and that makes sense right with a
2060
inside this can put off over a
hundred
watts of heat just from the GPU
alone
so because they have all these
different
heat sinks as well as the
metal
arrow blade fans to keep all that
heat
moving it means there's actually
very
little throttling even though we
are
gaming on such a thin and light
laptop
a big part of this is thanks to
the
software so we hit the predator
sense
button which is very helpfully
label
right here you have full control
over
a lot of things including the fans
so
by default this guy actually runs
with
the fans all disabled but as soon
as
you start needing any kind of extra
power
they will start to kick up now if
we're
gaming it's actually fairly quiet
one
of the cool parts is is if I come
over
to the fan control side and hit the
turbo
button you'll see this thing can
really
crank up so if you have
headphones
on you don't care about a
little
bit of noise you can get
significantly
better performance out of
the
predator and the best part is as
soon
as you're done gaming you can just
hit
the turbo button and it will bring
the
clock speeds back down to normal and
importantly
those fans will kick right
back
off and actually really is nice to
have
the performance when you need it or
the
silence when you want it and I
always
want the silence I'll give up a
few
frames to have a much quieter laptop
I've
got the more videos we do like this
the
more I just out myself is someone
who's
like an old man I'm like oh I
don't
know I don't care I just want it
to
be quiet and I want to work well
right
now there are over 1 billion PC
gamers
in the world I think it's a
pretty
safe bet to assume that a lot of
those
gamers are using desktops right
now
but just look at the overall trends
right
I mean it wasn't that long ago
they
pretty much everyone had a desktop
in
their homes
now
laptops have largely replaced them
for
pretty much anything besides gaming
tasks
well I think given how far gaming
laptops
have come it's only a matter of
time
before gaming is also moving more
and
more to the laptop side of things
but
my real question is exactly how
close
kind of laptop get to a full
gaming
desktop so we have come to GDC
here
in San Francisco which is the mecca
of
all things gaming and tech related
talk
just a little bit more about why
the
laptop actually makes so much sense
in
2019 also we were looking for an
excuse
to come to GDC and if you take a
look
inside the Triton you'll see you
the
secret sauce that makes all this
work
be
highly optimized CPU and GPU to
really
elevated laptops to an entirely
different
level first off we have the
CPU
this is the Intel Core i7
8750
age which is a full 6 core
processor
it can clock up over 4
gigahertz
when it's boosting no it's
easy
to forget that for a very long time
we
were capped at around 4 cores not
only
on the desktop side but also the
lap
top side the idea that we can get
six
cores and something that's this than
in
light is something that's easy to
take
for granted but it's a big deal you
can
do more than just gaming on
something
like this with that much power
stuff
like streaming video editing 3d
rendering
all that stuff is totally
possible
inside essentially what you're
getting
is a more power efficient
version
of the 8th gen core desktop
processors
there's a lot of advantages
to
this malli is that they very similar
layout
but because we're dealing with
about
less than half the power somewhere
they
would have 45 Watts versus 90 Plus
on
the desktop side it means that while
you're
giving up a little bit of
performance
that same basic core
architecture
is all here as long as you
have
the cooling to back it up which the
Triton
definitely does you can actually
still
keep those fairly high boost
clocks
eaten with all six cores loaded
now
the laws of physics do mean that
because
we have less than an inch thick
laptop
it's never going to have quite
that
same level of performance as the
desktop
but it kind of doesn't need to
as
long as you're getting close enough
and
you still deliver the portability I
think
it's a trade-off a lot of people
are
happy to make don't expect this
trend
to go anywhere either as laptops
and
desktops share more and more of the
same
components it is very likely if the
rumors
are true
we
want to see the laptops with an 8
core
CPUs before too much longer which I
mean
to be fair do you need eight cores
of
the CPU of a laptop probably not do
you
want one I do maybe the more
interesting
comparison is on the
graphics
side now for years nvidia made
a
separate version of all of the
graphics
cards they make the desktop
version
and then a mobile however for
the
last couple years they've
straight-up
just made one which works
across
the board no no it's not quite
that
simple Nvidia and their OEM
partners
such as Asia do a lot of work
to
make sure that a full RCX card can
fit
in a fan light chassis like this but
you
might be surprised it just helped
close
the graphics card and this laptop
is
compared to a much thicker and much
more
expensive gaming PC what this means
is
that you're getting all the
performance
you would expect avatar text
graphics
card now the power to play a
lot
of
Ultra
settings and high frame rates
would
you also get some of the cool
bells
and whistles including a ray
tracing
which we are just very
conveniently
standing in front of a
giant
booth for really what this means
is
that the days of waiting for the cool
bells
and whistles from the desktop to
come
down to the laptops are over we
really
have basically hid feature parity
and
typically speaking when something
comes
out for the desktop side of things
it's
gonna come out for the laptop side
very
quickly and generally speaking
you're
really not going to be losing a
lot
in that process this is something
that's
easy to kind of take for granted
right
of course laptops should be the
same
but again this is a much thinner
much
lighter and much more difficult
thing
to engineer it's easy to forget
that
not that long ago there was a
massive
penalty to gaming on a laptop
you
had to deal with far inferior specs
both
on the CPR on the GPU side and a
lot
of times you didn't even have those
same
level features I mean I can imagine
if
ray-tracing came out five years ago
you
would not have been able to play it
on
a laptop well it's great to have that
same
level of performance with the 2060
inside
the Triton as you would get in a
desktop
you also have other options as
you
go higher up in the product stack so
specifically
on the Acer side if you
upgrade
this Triton with a our checks
2080
you then get a max Q design now the
max
Q design is actually not that
different
than what Intel does on their
high-end
mobile CPUs so they basically
start
from the same building block in
this
case the archaic 2080 it's the same
GPU
across the laptop as well as the
desktop
now there are some slight
differences
usually the Mac to design is
a
little bit more highly bent it's a
little
bit more power efficient just
naturally
but on top of that they do a
much
better job of bringing down the
power
to keep that level of performance
as
high as possible so for context
typically
speaking in ArcheAge 20 80 has
a
roughly 220 watt TDP now on the laptop
side
it's usually about half of that
around
100 to 120 watts even though it's
using
half the power often times you're
getting
anywhere between two-thirds to
three-quarters
of that same level of
performance
if you excuse all the nerd
talk
for a second what this means is
that
laptops and desktops are so similar
at
this point it really is just a scaled
up
version of what you're finding on the
laptop
side you go grab a desktop with
some
cooller
a ton of heatsinks now of course
there's
going to be the laws of physics
which
mean that laptops can never quite
match
that level of performance when
you're
talking about 78% that same level
and
something that's a less than an inch
thick
that you can fit in your backpack
and
take you all day I think that's a
super
compelling value proposition I
think
a lot of people would prefer to
have
one single system this year might
not
be a hundred percent as powerful is
the
most crazy thing out there we can do
basically
everything very well plenty of
battery
life most importantly you can
take
it with you all day something
that's
not really going to happen
anytime
soon with the desktop
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