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Friday, August 21, 2020

Can Gaming Laptops Replace the Desktop? #Helpful Post


Can Gaming Laptops Replace the Desktop? #Helpful Post




hey guys this is Austin computers have
been getting smaller and smaller ever
since the days of mainframes now it just
makes sense right as technology advances
you want to put it into more more
portable form factors so an Nvidia
reached out and want to sponsor a video
on the brand-new Acer predator Titan 500
it felt like the perfect time to ask our

laptops killing desktops and yeah that's
a big question and only 18 millimeters
thick and just over two kilos and wait
this is a great example of how a laptop
like this could not have existed even a
couple years ago the entire chassis is
made of metal it has a narrow bezel
display which is not only bright and
fairly vibrant but importantly it does
have a full 144 Hertz refresh rate over
double what you would find on most other
non gaming laptops these days now this
version of the Triton does have an RT X
2060 inside so it will support g-sync
via an external display but if you were
able to upgrade this to the 2080 version
of the Triton it has g-sync on the
internal display which keeps things
looking even smoother onboard you also
have killer doubleshot pro essentially
this can take advantage of both Ethernet
and Wi-Fi at the same time to route your
traffic through whichever is faster
something that's hard to get across it's
just a level of Polish fit and finish
with this laptop I mean nine does it
look clean with all the blue lighting
although of course that this RGB but on
top of that you've got the little things
which are absolutely nailed this is one
of the best touch pads I've ever used on
any Windows laptop the keyboard is also
great and that screen really does sell
the idea this is a super-fast gaming
laptop even when you're not even gaming
right I mean stuff like web browsing is
still much much smoother than on pretty
much any other laptop and that is a big
big plus so if we get back to the idea
that laptops are coming close to the
replacing desktops one of the very first
things you have to acknowledge is that
laptops have all hot less space to deal
with but it also fits in your backpack
so you know there's that this might
sound obvious but there are some major
advantages going with a desktop Tower
so the big ones is on the power side of
things so now that the desktop not have
to worry about things like battery life
as long as you've got mom paying the
electricity bill you're totally fine one
of the bigger issues is the actual
cooling aspect of things as you can see
with a tower like this you can load it
up with fans RGB is liquid cooling all
that is no problem so things can be run
at much much higher clock speeds it's
just really not a big issue but when you
come over to a laptop which is less than
and spin certain sacrifices
to be made but you know what those
sacrifices are getting smaller and
smaller every year this delivers a very
similar level of performance to this
giant tower right in front of me if we
come back to the Triton 500 you'll see
that a large part of this design is
entirely dedicated to keeping the laptop
cool and that makes sense right with a
2060 inside this can put off over a
hundred watts of heat just from the GPU
alone so because they have all these
different heat sinks as well as the
metal arrow blade fans to keep all that
heat moving it means there's actually
very little throttling even though we
are gaming on such a thin and light
laptop a big part of this is thanks to
the software so we hit the predator
sense button which is very helpfully
label right here you have full control
over a lot of things including the fans
so by default this guy actually runs
with the fans all disabled but as soon
as you start needing any kind of extra
power they will start to kick up now if
we're gaming it's actually fairly quiet
one of the cool parts is is if I come
over to the fan control side and hit the
turbo button you'll see this thing can
really crank up so if you have
headphones on you don't care about a
little bit of noise you can get
significantly better performance out of
the predator and the best part is as
soon as you're done gaming you can just
hit the turbo button and it will bring
the clock speeds back down to normal and
importantly those fans will kick right
back off and actually really is nice to
have the performance when you need it or
the silence when you want it and I
always want the silence I'll give up a
few frames to have a much quieter laptop
I've got the more videos we do like this
the more I just out myself is someone
who's like an old man I'm like oh I
don't know I don't care I just want it
to be quiet and I want to work well
right now there are over 1 billion PC
gamers in the world I think it's a
pretty safe bet to assume that a lot of
those gamers are using desktops right
now but just look at the overall trends
right I mean it wasn't that long ago
they pretty much everyone had a desktop
in their homes
now laptops have largely replaced them
for pretty much anything besides gaming
tasks well I think given how far gaming
laptops have come it's only a matter of
time before gaming is also moving more
and more to the laptop side of things
but my real question is exactly how
close kind of laptop get to a full
gaming desktop so we have come to GDC
here in San Francisco which is the mecca
of all things gaming and tech related
talk just a little bit more about why
the laptop actually makes so much sense
in 2019 also we were looking for an
excuse to come to GDC and if you take a
look inside the Triton you'll see you
the secret sauce that makes all this
work
be highly optimized CPU and GPU to
really elevated laptops to an entirely
different level first off we have the
CPU this is the Intel Core i7
8750 age which is a full 6 core
processor it can clock up over 4
gigahertz when it's boosting no it's
easy to forget that for a very long time
we were capped at around 4 cores not
only on the desktop side but also the
lap top side the idea that we can get
six cores and something that's this than
in light is something that's easy to
take for granted but it's a big deal you
can do more than just gaming on
something like this with that much power
stuff like streaming video editing 3d
rendering all that stuff is totally
possible inside essentially what you're
getting is a more power efficient
version of the 8th gen core desktop
processors there's a lot of advantages
to this malli is that they very similar
layout but because we're dealing with
about less than half the power somewhere
they would have 45 Watts versus 90 Plus
on the desktop side it means that while
you're giving up a little bit of
performance that same basic core
architecture is all here as long as you
have the cooling to back it up which the
Triton definitely does you can actually
still keep those fairly high boost
clocks eaten with all six cores loaded
now the laws of physics do mean that
because we have less than an inch thick
laptop it's never going to have quite
that same level of performance as the
desktop but it kind of doesn't need to
as long as you're getting close enough
and you still deliver the portability I
think it's a trade-off a lot of people
are happy to make don't expect this
trend to go anywhere either as laptops
and desktops share more and more of the
same components it is very likely if the
rumors are true
we want to see the laptops with an 8
core CPUs before too much longer which I
mean to be fair do you need eight cores
of the CPU of a laptop probably not do
you want one I do maybe the more
interesting comparison is on the
graphics side now for years nvidia made
a separate version of all of the
graphics cards they make the desktop
version and then a mobile however for
the last couple years they've
straight-up just made one which works
across the board no no it's not quite
that simple Nvidia and their OEM
partners such as Asia do a lot of work
to make sure that a full RCX card can
fit in a fan light chassis like this but
you might be surprised it just helped
close the graphics card and this laptop
is compared to a much thicker and much
more expensive gaming PC what this means
is that you're getting all the
performance you would expect avatar text
graphics card now the power to play a
lot of
Ultra settings and high frame rates
would you also get some of the cool
bells and whistles including a ray
tracing which we are just very
conveniently standing in front of a
giant booth for really what this means
is that the days of waiting for the cool
bells and whistles from the desktop to
come down to the laptops are over we
really have basically hid feature parity
and typically speaking when something
comes out for the desktop side of things
it's gonna come out for the laptop side
very quickly and generally speaking
you're really not going to be losing a
lot in that process this is something
that's easy to kind of take for granted
right of course laptops should be the
same but again this is a much thinner
much lighter and much more difficult
thing to engineer it's easy to forget
that not that long ago there was a
massive penalty to gaming on a laptop
you had to deal with far inferior specs
both on the CPR on the GPU side and a
lot of times you didn't even have those
same level features I mean I can imagine
if ray-tracing came out five years ago
you would not have been able to play it
on a laptop well it's great to have that
same level of performance with the 2060
inside the Triton as you would get in a
desktop you also have other options as
you go higher up in the product stack so
specifically on the Acer side if you
upgrade this Triton with a our checks
2080 you then get a max Q design now the
max Q design is actually not that
different than what Intel does on their
high-end mobile CPUs so they basically
start from the same building block in
this case the archaic 2080 it's the same
GPU across the laptop as well as the
desktop now there are some slight
differences usually the Mac to design is
a little bit more highly bent it's a
little bit more power efficient just
naturally but on top of that they do a
much better job of bringing down the
power to keep that level of performance
as high as possible so for context
typically speaking in ArcheAge 20 80 has
a roughly 220 watt TDP now on the laptop
side it's usually about half of that
around 100 to 120 watts even though it's
using half the power often times you're
getting anywhere between two-thirds to
three-quarters of that same level of
performance if you excuse all the nerd
talk for a second what this means is
that laptops and desktops are so similar
at this point it really is just a scaled
up version of what you're finding on the
laptop side you go grab a desktop with
some
cooller a ton of heatsinks now of course
there's going to be the laws of physics
which mean that laptops can never quite
match that level of performance when
you're talking about 78% that same level
and something that's a less than an inch
thick that you can fit in your backpack
and take you all day I think that's a
super compelling value proposition I
think a lot of people would prefer to
have one single system this year might
not be a hundred percent as powerful is
the most crazy thing out there we can do
basically everything very well plenty of
battery life most importantly you can
take it with you all day something
that's not really going to happen
anytime soon with the desktop


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