New Mac Pro Slower than an iMac? (6-Core D500 vs Quad-Core GTX 780M) #Helpful Post

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johnathan your TLD hope you guys are

doing well I am back with yet another

comparison this time we are taking a

look at the brand new late 2013 Mac Pro

against the top-of-the-line iMac which

also came out late last year so the Mac

Pro that I am using is the 6 core model

and I completely understand that it's

not apples for apples in terms of quad

core versus quad core but I figured some

people that are either coming from an

iMac or comparing these models might

view these 6 core as kind of that next

step up and would find this information

useful now if you guys find this

interesting and you guys want to see a

similar video comparing the quad core

Mac Pro versus iMac let me know by

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my best to get my hands on that now

Before we jump into the actual

benchmarks and performance it's going to

take a look at the configuration and the

pricing between this Mac Pro and the

iMac so this Mac Pro is configured with

a 6 core 3.5 gigahertz Xeon CPU this is

desktop-class components for these tests

I have a configure with 16 gigs of 1866

megahertz ECC memory twin AMD FirePro D

500 GPUs with 3 gigs of video memory

each and last but not least 256 gigs of

PCIe flash storage and it's going to

come out to a grand total of $39.99 u.s.

jump it over to the iMac this is

configured with a quad-core 3.5

gigahertz i7 Haswell CPU eight gigs of

memory which is coming in at 1600

megahertz ddr3 an nvidia gtx 780 m with

four gigs of video memory a three

terabyte fusion drive and this comes out

to a grand total of 26 99 us now I know

before we continue there's going to be

one major thing that stands out to most

to you guys and that is the three

terabytes on the iMac vs. a 256

gigabytes on the Mac Pro and that's

actually where these two differ quite a

bit first and foremost pure pcie-based

flash storage is much faster than a

traditional hard drive obviously or even

a fusion drive if we take a look at

black magic disk speed test you can see

in terms of read speeds that Mac holds

up pretty well gets the Mac Pro but if

we look at the write speeds that's

really where the Mac Pro separates

itself the IMAX fusion drive was

performed at around 321 megabytes per

second in terms of write speed whereas

the Mac Pro was looking nearly a

gigabyte a second at 803 megabytes per

second now in terms of how that

into real-world performance to duplicate

a 10.5 gigabyte file the iMac to 108

seconds to do that whereas the Mac Pro

took 21.9 seconds so you can see there's

a huge difference there with that said

the iMac is geared really for internal

expansion obviously you're not really

meant to do that after the fact or after

you order it but when you are

configuring it you can choose from a 1

terabyte standard 7200 rpm hard drive up

to a 3 terabyte fusion drive or you can

choose from pure pcie-based flash

storage ranging from 256 gigs up to one

terabyte now the Mac Pro on the other

hand is really meant not for internal

expansion but completely for external

expansion you have six Thunderbolt ports

on the back as opposed to the two on the

iMac so all your extra storage is really

meant to come from thunderbolt drives

raid arrays things of that nature as

opposed to internally like on the iMac

another thing to consider is there is no

display with the Mac Pro whereas the

iMac comes with a beautiful 2560 by 1440

IPS display is definitely not 4k but

it's higher resolution than 1080p so

definitely keep that in mind when you

are considering your purchase jumping

back to the performance looking at

Geekbench 3 the 64-bit edition if you

notice the single core score the iMac

actually outperforms the mac pro with a

score of 38 34 as opposed to 36 12 on

the Mac Pro so this means for

applications that really don't take

advantage of multi-core or multi threads

this gives the iMac potential to

outperform the Mac Pro now looking at

the multi-core score you can clearly see

where the Mac Pro pulls ahead with the

score of 20,000 710 as opposed to 14,000

446 on the iMac and conversely where the

applications do take advantage of

multicores and multi-threading this is

where the Mac Pro would obviously pull

ahead

so for Cinebench r15 the CPU portion

again you can see this is where the Mac

Pro outperforms the iMac with a score of

961 compared to 698 Lux mark 2.1 which

really showcases OpenCL performance

where the Mac Pro is supposed to shine

really shows off the power of the twin D

500s and this is actually one of the few

applications that actually recognizes

both so you can see it scored 3194 K

rays a second as opposed to the 940 one

on the iMac and the GTX 780 M now in the

opposite end of the spectrum Unigine

valley 1.0 does not recognize both of

the D 500 so in this case the GTX 780 M

on the iMac outperforms the Mac Pro with

34.2 average frames per second compared

to 29.4 on a single d5

hundred jumping back over to Cinebench

r15 this time we're looking at the

OpenGL section and again you can see the

imac actually outperforms mac pro

because it is only recognizing 1d 500 so

again if you are looking to do a little

bit of gaming with your imac this is

where it's actually going to shine it

outperform the mac pro but again if you

are looking to game where you're buying

a mac pro just for gaming you are

completely wasting your money you should

probably just build your own PC for that

jumping over to photoshop CC this really

showcases how Adobe programs right now

aren't geared to take advantage of the

power of the mac pro most of them are

operating on barely any of the cores and

in this case the iMac again outperforms

the mac pro it beats it out by nearly

ten seconds so again this goes back to

that Geekbench single core performance

where the iMac is outperforming the Mac

Pro next up is handbrake the 64-bit

Edition this is a one-minute MKV file

transcoded into a high profile h.264

file unlike the Photoshop benchmark this

actually takes advantage of all the

cores on the mac pro so here you can see

where the mac pro pulls ahead beating

the imac by about 15 seconds next up is

Final Cut Pro 10 which was designed and

optimized to take complete advantage of

the twin GPUs in the Mac Pro what I did

was take a seven-second h.264 clip

retimed it down to 50% stabilize it and

then applied optical flow you can see

here the Mac Pro clearly outperforms

iMac doing that task in 24 seconds as

opposed to 35 on the iMac continuing on

with Final Cut Pro 10 applying a blur

filter to a 45 second clip it took 12

seconds on the Mac Pro and 15 seconds on

the IMAX not really a huge difference

there but the Mac Pro did beat it in

this case next up we're looking at Final

Cut Pro 10 export times and this one was

actually really wacky if you notice the

Mac Pro in terms of a regular

three-minute 1080p h.264 export does

beat the iMac at 3 minutes and 22

seconds as opposed to 3 minutes and 34

seconds not huge but it does beat it but

if we actually export that same project

with a single pass compressor export the

iMac does it in 53 seconds as opposed to

2 minutes and 59 seconds on the Mac Pro

now I'm sure anybody looking at these

numbers is scratching their head and

wondering how is it possible that the

iMac could outperform the Mac Pro by

that big of a margin from what I've

gathered the iMac actually supports

Intel's quick sync in certain aspects so

for this one it's actually going to use

hardware acceleration to speed up the

ask and you can see there's a huge

difference on the iMac compared to the

Mac Pro which does not support quick

sync on the xeon processor now grant it

from what i've learned it only applies

to single pass exports not multi pass so

for higher quality exports and things

like that you're not really going to

take advantage of that on the imac but

if you're doing just basic single pass

exports that may be something to

consider when you're looking to pick up

one of these models moving on to even

more Final Cut Pro 10 test because these

are optimized to take advantage of the

video cards to transcode three minutes

of 1080p footage it took 39 seconds on

the Mac Pro as opposed to 45 seconds on

the iMac now I also did some 4k tests I

did a two-minute 4k export and this is

actually used from Blackmagic sample

footage I have a link to this where you

can download it if you guys want to

check that out it took 5 minutes and 35

seconds on the iMac as opposed to 5

minutes and 7 seconds on the Mac Prost

not a huge difference but the Mac Pro

was definitely faster and I also took

one of those 4k clips did a little color

correction copied and pasted those

attributes onto 10 more files and then

timed out how long it would take to

render the Mac Pro took 22 seconds to do

that whereas the iMac took 35 so here

you can see there was a pretty big

difference between these two next up is

After Effects CC and this really

showcases how Adobe stuff is not

optimized to use mac pro power because

right now they completely don't take

advantage of that and after effects it

was barely using one of the cores and

just really not using any of the power

on the mac pro in this case you can see

the iMac does outperform the Mac Pro in

both a stabilized test and a track

camera test and both by pretty

significant amounts same exact thing in

Premiere Pro with a warp stabilized test

took 38 seconds on the Mac Pro versus 32

seconds on the iMac so again Adobe

really needs to update the programs to

take advantage of the Mac Pro now all

the Adobe tests were completely bad news

in a three minute 1080p h.264 export the

Mac Pro did beat the iMac with a total

time of three minutes 49 seconds as

opposed to 4 minutes and 20 seconds on

the iMac so there you guys have it

pretty interesting and definitely not

what I would have expected but I wanted

to bring this information out to you

guys who are considering picking up

either an iMac or a Mac Pro hopefully

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so to sum things up at this point unless

you're doing Final Cut Pro 10 there's

not a whole lot on the Mac Pro that

really takes advantage of the twin GPUs

or all the processing power of the CPU I

think it solidifies that the iMac is a

pretty stellar bang for your buck

package in terms of what you get for the

price and conversely does that mean that

the Mac Pro is not worth the money and I

think that really comes down to what

you're using it for and how long-term of

a setup you're looking to have obviously

the Mac Pro just came out so it is going

to take time for programs and companies

to jump aboard and make sure their

programs and applications take advantage

of the twin GPUs and all the power of

the Mac Pro I do plan on doing follow-up

videos maybe three four five six months

down the road to see how it progresses

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