Real Play Button vs CHINESE CLONE #Helpful Post

I've Dennis Oman can you get off your

phone for 10 seconds at work geez okay

so this is actually gonna be a lot of

fun we've got a bunch of cool stuff but

the highlight of the show today is our

Chinese knockoff play button it's not

nothing

okay well we'll explain more about that

later my first Dennis I wanted to ask

you a question what do you think of our

new Xbox sudden it's a new model or

something I don't really know I don't

play console games this one right here

you wanted to know if that's a new model

what do you think does it look better

than the Xbox one X it means it looks

bigger and I don't know it's like

industrial look and fit the set right

hold older I don't know I don't yeah

whatever

that's more like pluck in right so okay

there's a video coming soon I'm just

bugging Dennis it doesn't know anything

about it but we've got a sleeper video

coming really soon

featuring the world's most powerful Xbox

one not to be confused with the Xbox one

which is the Xbox model Oh anyone that's

the original Xbox one yeah from like

2003 or 2002 or yeah so we actually put

a super-powerful PC inside it so it

supports our TX real time ray tracing so

cool yeah so it's pretty cool and it's

like completely stealth from the outside

you'd never know but those those ports

on the front yeah those jacks that's cuz

that Xbox used to require wired

controllers so that was where you

plugged in the controllers but they've

all been swapped out for USB so now we

could plug in ps4 controllers or a new

Xbox controllers or anything we want

okay so it's it's pretty sick anyway

anyway that's not what you people yeah

but you need to see yeah just wait wait

for me I'll be right back Dennis

entertain them entertain them my own

show it's my own live show no well I

miss anymore but no more coding we are

doing a live stream that we are

replacing - for this channel from now on

with you yes so because this is our new

set help hey guys how long should I let

them suffer over there okay I cannot

tell any jokes

how long should I let them just sit

there I mean Dennis you scream you

scream I'm sitting on the couch and

camera pointing on me I mean like you

know what's is usually look like I'm

back I'm back I'm back okay so first I

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okay so first of all YouTube actually

has a couple of different styles of play

buttons that they've had over the years

so because we've been on YouTube for a

very long time sometimes I marvel at

those how old I am and how old the

platform is these days we have samples

of the different kinds of YouTube play

buttons so this is the original 100,000

subscriber play button notice I grabbed

the yeah cuz I knew you were gonna be

here and that was sort of you know a

thing that you love that's good

so memory yeah Memorial you know even if

people subscribe we're not resurrecting

it these we try okay look the thing

about channel's super fun because we've

had a lot of people ask us to bring it

back is I have already said sure go

ahead make a channel super fun not only

can you do it on work time but you can

even just spend any money that was

brought in by the channel super fun

Adsense completely 100% passed through

channel super fun ad revenue to do

something you say any money like No

Limit did I is maybe not

he said no any money

basically didn't care because we haven't

spent any on channel Superfund and it

still makes like a couple hundred bucks

a month in Adsense or something like

that like it's not insignificant so like

if people wanted to go skydiving or some

crazy crap all they have to do is plan

it and take the money and go and nobody

has done it so it's it's like actually

not my fault at this point can we pan

your car again no no no no okay

so the original the original silver play

button was kind of I don't know it's

what about three or four inches by two

and a half three inches really shiny it

actually looks quite nice it's in a

shadowbox

Vexin photo is relatively cheap but yeah

it's an aluminum aluminum frame proper

glass front and then it's just like it's

a pretty standard frame pretty easy to

mount though it's got like really really

strong mounting hardware here which is

pretty cool pretty robust been in the

last couple of years at some point I

don't remember when they did it but

YouTube ditched the og play button and

brought us this honestly it's it's okay

so this is the one we got for tech

linked I also have a similar one for

Linus cat tips this really makes me

regret not doing the cat tips one a lot

sooner because then they could have had

an OG one for it but whatever yeah oh

it's fine it's got a velvet backing

which is this is nice I guess

touch but one thing that's that kind of

stands out to me about this one is it's

quite a bit cheaper that scratched oh no

it's just a hair oh it fogged it's

really cold in here anyway so it's just

got like a shiny I'm not sure if it's

glass or acrylic so I'm not gonna try to

scratch it cuz then it would get

scratched and then it's just got like a

brushed aluminum piece here and then

this is a veneer so this is just like a

single brushed aluminum piece that goes

on top and then this is just like some

kind of screen printing on here so yeah

I like this one more know what what do I

got more yeah this is more modern and

but look at the the shininess of the

plate is plastic I know well no it

actually is No

might be it might be metal coated people

have actually like broken it down and

tried to figure out the composition of

it before I'm not sure about the silver

one definitely and this is also a mirror

that you can actually make a use of it's

like can look at it

Wow you'd have to be a whole other level

of narcissistic to like dude that's yeah

that's how you use it

okay but you guys aren't here to see

real YouTube play buttons you're here to

see the Chinese clone so he got one of

these I'll explain later how we got it

actually we got it quite a while ago but

it's yeah turn the 18th it's it's taken

us until now to unbox it so Dennis come

come on in come in and close David

Dennis do you want to do the honors yes

this is from Bailey Bailey

don't explain how we got it okay open oh

okay oh so this is my ulterior motive

for inviting you to do the stream with

me okay so you can read it okay sure

okay Linus tech tips

Bailey Billy Billy Billy lately CEO

Billy Billy there's another Billy

billion their CEO really Billy yeah okay

okay so can you read this for me so

first of all you can see two like cheers

yeah I says Kombe like Cheers

okay drink beers them okay so we have we

reach 100,000 fans that's a hundred

thousand fans sure achievement okay okay

so Lana's take to achievement that's you

have to write all that crap for

achievement reach achievement Richard

told ya okay so that's it thank you for

creating the contents all the way along

along the way if I only imbue you have

reached ten hundred thousand followers

right because the way it works in

Chinese is it's yeah ten thousands right

is that right yes ten this another word

for ten thousand so bad but ten ten

thousand yes

in dozens yeah okay this is 100,000 yeah

every day right this is the so this is

something that were for you is that

milestone is that big milestone yeah my

stone really happy to see you your your

your project have been recognized by a

lot of followers okay cool

a lot of them have become your silicon

friends in your in the online world

silicon France in significant

significant friends yeah okay meanwhile

I probably couldn't communicate with a

single one of them if I met them on the

street but yeah that's the beauty of all

mine right yeah are people watching this

cool eighty point oh wow so the no

pressure witness but like your

translation okay I know I'm released

yeah multiple ten thousands of people oh

my god okay okay this look like an

English English test for me

initially this is me in real-time it

just okay cuz you know I can replace you

with Google okay because our because of

your consistent hard work hard work yes

how work and never like with never

giving things are you have create your

own little world on buoys at the

meantime this is jinx yes is she to

chant and you know that actually doesn't

help me very much

okay the Chinese is very different than

my Chinese it's a great thing the great

thing about this is I actually know how

hard it is to translate in real time I

attended a like some kind of like

learning professional development

something thing with my mom back when

she was a teacher and she's hard of

hearing and has trouble with conventions

and like presentations in particular

because the audio solution means that a

lot of the time the synchronization

between the lips and the audio is not

quite perfect so I had to sit up at the

front and translate to sign language

what they were saying and I am like

barely functional like Khan I was at my

best I was barely conversational fluent

in in sign language and like at the end

of those two days each day I just would

go back to the hotel room just lie down

and sleep

absolutely one of the most mentally

fatiguing things you can do like there's

a reason that by law translators have to

be swapped out every I forget how often

it is but it's like shockingly fast

because the the tax it is on your brain

is like it's really different from

almost any other kind of work so I'm I'm

giving them a really hard time but it's

actually doing a great job okay so

there's no saying you're a very powerful

creator in this area a lot of new new

users coming to sure share your content

okay because they love your not your

artwork and create a new world and okay

okay so right

yeah as people well if there was exit

I'd be able to find that too because

it's on that exit

yeah we believe that you have your

passion to constant them consistently

putting out your hard word to what you

love is a is a treasure in your life I

hope you can maintain your passion in

Billy Billy and create unlimited

possibilities so that's it that's our

letter from the Billy Billy

CEO now what's this ma'am I don't know I

can't read a signature in Chinese I

can't return English there's no there's

no I yeah there's no that printed just

yeah so okay yeah you do the owners

Dennis this wouldn't happen without you

it's really cool I don't think it could

be more Asian if they tried yeah

adorable it's a TV

it's so cute on TV I know what rabbit

ears on a thing means it is let's have a

look at it Wow look at that

oh you can they have signed it - yeah I

have like a stand here and you can put

it this - sure that's pretty cool you

can also hang it on the wall it has a

couple of like nail hooks on the back

it's velvet on the back your favorite oh

yeah you can touch it so you can just

take this off with the four screws and

then you can hang it on the wall like

that this is acrylic actually that's an

interesting pretty good so you can see

like they have a lot of comments here

okay are those comments like from our

channel you think no I think they just

it just for this plate okay I don't

really understand some of them okay but

yeah some of them like this like Oh

absent is 3000 times is like not

original I'd like to do is not very

original no I'm probably asking you're

turning off with three dots in time okay

up something something Jay call I don't

really know I don't really understand

what about this one with Billy Billy and

this Cheers

Billy Billy this is like a face emoji

yeah I know I know the face this isn't

some things are universal this is what

this is a some keep give you my knees

like T monitor that means like now we're

gonna be demonetized

on YouTube and Billy Billy we

is this give up my niece's so that means

I give you my niece that means like okay

I'm like kneeling down for you

oh okay so it means like it's like

that's warmer it's like it's like a text

bout yeah uh pow pow okay oh no power

like this like New York not like no down

now powers like that no that's like I

don't understand what you're doing oh my

knees for you is that what it says yes

yes your knees for you yeah actually

that's what it means yes but not like

what you're thinking but I'm thinking I

would never regret that join Billy Bowie

desire yes so um so yeah they've gone

like a very shadowbox kind of looking

style kind of like the old YouTube one

it's quite a bit bigger which I actually

like because I've always felt like that

the silver play baton was like kind of a

saving on shipping cosplay but I mean I

guess YouTube had to kind of see it

coming that they were gonna ship

literally hundreds of thousands of these

things at some point so you gotta kind

of control you control the

ridiculousness of your spend there

honestly I really the one thing that

really stands out to me about it

compared to the YouTube one actually

either the YouTube ones is that instead

of just going with a cheap like screen

printing finish both on the glass of the

original one and on the metal top or on

the metal front of the of the new one

they've actually got like a textured

like it's it's an etched kind of

embossed font here and then there's

actually a like a shiny silver ink

that's uh that's filled in on the Linus

tech tips what does this actually say

congratulation you have reached 100,000

followers fans okay and then on their

logo as well like the thing actually

looks really sharp and even up here you

can tell that what they've done is this

is like a

translucent MACT peace and then they've

like itched away a top layer like it's a

really cool kind of printing that it

looks like they've done on here I wonder

if you could even back light this thing

that's why I'm thinking I thought you

don't like it no I think you could cuz

look if you look through the hole here

it's a little bit trouble you said why

don't you put it behind the slate oh

that little M yeah oh here here is

that's here yeah yeah if you take this

thing so we would have to take it apart

we'd have to put some kind of diffusion

layer and then we just have to put some

kind of lighting in there we could

totally backlight it you can also G a

bit well yeah obviously I thought that

without the same 1000 percent RGB okay

so so yeah oh so come on in and let's

let's kind of talk about what happened

so I had said but this is something that

wouldn't have happened without Dennis

and as much as the title of this video

made it sound like we just bought like a

like a Chinese clone of a YouTube play

button as you guys might have picked up

on at some point here either if you've

heard of Billy Billy before or you went

in googled it or just from our tone this

is a real video platform that we

actually do upload our videos to and we

actually did just reach a hundred

thousand subscribers and for us this is

kind of a big deal because this is on a

Chinese language video platform that

without the hard work of our translation

team yeah coordinate yeah huge shout out

we have like a team of 54 people that

day yeah I do a contract but they but

they do a lot of how work like a lot of

videos that we don't have script and

like vlog like 20 minutes they have to

like work on it and get it released we

after that wearisome focus trying to

sing that with YouTube but a lot of

videos are really hard to translate but

they did a fantastic

job so good job our team and yeah and

right now this is 100 right now we have

400,000 oh really subscribers are we

actually growing pretty fast right now

let me see I actually stole numbers oh

that's kind of crazy so we have four

hundred and nine thousand like fans

followers and we have we have over 60

millions play that's not bad actually

that's pretty cool I don't pay that

close attention to it so like I said

this really wouldn't happen without

Dennis's hardwork coordinating it and

without the translation team we do

obviously like pay money so I guess I

can tribute that to it and it's all the

original LTTE videos but I guess this

raises the question why do people need

to watch on Billy Billy comm instead of

just watching on YouTube we have Chinese

subtitles because this platform you also

has different kind of function that

YouTube doesn't have you can comment on

the timecode that so the common good pop

on the screen that people they trans

people usually do that absolutely that's

kind of cool you can turn it on and off

right yeah the comments floating by on

the screen but then what will happen is

if someone comments on a particular part

of the video then at that moment in the

video the comments will scroll by on the

screen so it's kind of like a highly

engaging way to to do to leave comments

so there could be like no comments for a

while and then like a really funny

moment happens and it's like wow that's

like what everyone else thought about it

which is kind of kind of cool kind of

interactive

also that because I was subtitle who

burned into the video so that we can

change the fonts easier to read on

subtitles okay yeah yeah that's

basically it and of course the elephant

in the room yeah that there's no access

to YouTube in China yeah so right now

because of the the complicated nature of

getting money out of the People's

Republic of China

wait the PRC that's like mainland China

right people Republic of China is that

right yeah yes okay okay so because of

the complicated nature of that even

though Billy Billy actually does have

an Adsense like program we can't be

eligible for it because the money would

have to go to someone who actually lives

in China which creates a bunch of

Taxation complications for them because

they would then have to forward it to us

but like how like it's it's really

complicated and there would be no way

for us to claim ownership of it so if we

just set it up so it went to someone

then they could just take it not not

that we don't trust like the members of

our translation team it's just that

that's it's not that's not a good way of

doing business so we don't actually make

any money on it at all but this was just

a decision that we made like a couple

years ago I think 2016 2016 just to hey

we need to have some kind of a presence

in China people in China like if they

want to watch Linus tech tips they needs

time away not just on this platform we

also have our China on egg fun you can

you can you can no two doors Costco to

dal we killed yeah yeah this is the one

that honestly has been the most success

this this one's the biggest one like in

China online video is really different

in China like a lot of those bigger

sites it's not so much indie creators

like like us like we'd be considered

indie it's more like like like actual

shows and stuff that people are just

watching online and even Billy Billy the

foot there's a funny story behind the

start of what we were doing there so

Billy Billy was more like a pirate site

so actually the reason it was brought to

our attention was that the translation

group some of the early members were

pirating our videos translating them for

nothing just out of passion for

technology and wanting to share our

videos with people in China and

uploading them to Billy Billy and we

were like yo WTF you actually can't do

that and they were like oh sorry we just

wanted to help and we were like oh okay

so now we actually contract yeah to do

it officially so so that was that was

really cool that's something we started

working on a couple years ago and this

is just it's an exciting milestone it's

something that a lot of thought a lot of

you probably didn't know that Dennis

died was here yes I do think this on

camera like personality where it's like

Oh Dennis he's just he's just stupid and

he doesn't know what he's doing and he

trips on things are like whatever I do

but this actually does a lot of stuff

here so he's our primary editor for fast

as possible he actually edits a lot of

tech linked now like 95% though yeah he

does he coordinates the Chinese

translation team he does shooting for us

so sometimes if we have to go somewhere

particularly Chinese speaking I will

prefer to take Dennis with me because

you know when we did for example the the

gaming high school yeah and Taiwan

Dennis arranged all of that like

start-to-finish contacted the the people

there arranged the shoot day shot it

edited it did the thumbnail for I didn't

think the thumbnail was great anyway

the gaming hotel did really well that

was another Dennis initiative so yeah

here's a little award maybe we should

argue be back light it and put it up in

like the gaming lounge or some yeah cuz

honestly okay you're gonna have to let

us know in the comments guys I think it

looks better than either of the YouTube

ones it has so much more character like

this feels so sterile to me and this one

has always looked kind of small and

cheap to me whereas this like really it

feels ok don't break it oh that's

already dead yeah so don't you don't

have to be on its grave sure should we

should we do a couple Super chats or

something I actually don't even have my

laptop here to talk with you guys have

people been super chatting yet okay oh

sorry you guys I don't even I don't even

think there's a way for me to access

them on mobile there's so many things on

YouTube that are just like YouTube's

amazing the technology that they have

for vaad online is I don't know if

anyone will ever catch them but there's

stuff that's just like kind of basic

that I don't have like four stories for

example there's I have no stats for the

whatsoever I have no analytics for them

I can't access them in the in the

creator studio app or anything like that

like it's just there it's just not in

here yeah I could I could go over there

and read a couple or like I thought I

had my laptop over here David you want

to just follow us over here like now

look Dennis does lighting - yeah a plus

ten out of ten lighting okay so it's not

entirely an on camera like I mean

there's an element of Dennis being kind

of a klutz sometimes okay so what have

we got

Ivan tek-tips is king now apparently

Dennis needs a weekly live show

nice Dennis isn't fired Dennis was never

no we've never even joked about known as

being fired you're thinking of Colton

yeah can you quit it with the artsy

aspect ratios on your videos 18 by 9 is

probably here to stay I don't know if

you are familiar with this but tech

linked is still sixteen by nine right

yeah and if that this still sixteen by

nine okay but LTT is probably gonna stay

18 by 9 a lot of our viewership is

mobile you guys and mobile phones are

moving to that wider aspect ratio

personally I'd really like to see TVs

available in a wider aspect ratio I've

pitched my case to the TV manufacturers

that I sort of have the ear and we'll

see what happens but especially with how

many movies are shot in a wider aspect

ratio I think that's an obvious next

step Hank says here's five-year host for

super fun Oh get your own car painted

your car's kind of a piece of junk to my

car

that's fine where's my Civic too but

it's what your doesn't eight yeah looks

like it has a lot of rust on it no it's

okay it runs yeah Selenia says finally

off work in time for an ltte stream yeah

we were late today that's why that

happened i kevin says if you still have

the old Civic I'll buy it from you I do

endurance racing for beaters okay that

might actually be fun I think we have a

plan for it we were gonna run over it

with a tank but then that died so maybe

we're doing something else I don't know

we'll see um maybe we got here my

company has been trying to get a hold of

you guys respond sir

Watson can't get a reply well you kind

of sponsored us now

thanks for the 20 British pounds that's

cool

if you didn't get a reply from the email

that's listed on our channel they're

supposed to reply to everyone but if

they're not interested sometimes they

forget so that might be what happened

with the sales team total gamer says

Linus you and your crew deserve a coffee

break open your wallet and help them out

hey look I paid them every class they

buy is opening my wallet I'm just saying

not that that's you know the beyond and

they'll actually we even have free

coffee in the kitchen yeah yeah and we I

already pay more your coffee Andrew says

come join floatplane showers or birds

means cheeky lines that's a weird

comment I don't understand your comment

Beautif your life Linus says Jule Spice

Girls no no I'm gonna see the Backstreet

Boys although I would totally go see the

Spice Girls if they came to town that

that would be a thing okay they seem to

be a repeat dennis is the coffee break

guy just sending us like I love you too

nice to just over and over and over

again

no I yeah I think so we're what the heck

a couple gamer maybe is maximum yo what

was the thing you used before Flo

playing oh this is chicken nugget style

I almost wore my vessel shirt today but

then I didn't it was called vessel it's

demo why are you guys charging so much

for shipping from the LTTE story that's

because shipping from Canada is actually

really expensive especially tracked

shipping we are working on a solution

but it will take time I think that

especially people who live in Hong Kong

or the UK sort of take for granted that

you can have cheap worldwide shipping

with a tracking number for like a few

bucks that is not a thing here Canada

Post is not subsidized in any way so

it's just really really expensive like

you have to pay for the fraction of a

plane ticket that your package would

have taken up the seat of like it's

ridiculous so that is our cost um Justin

says when was your love of computers

born

I don't know around the same time I was

magnet says I want the new t-shirt

design as a sticker that's probably

worth investigating but we're working on

boxers first do you believe someone said

be replete Cheers Oh Peter Phu alright

so that's it guys thanks for tuning in

to the stream thanks Dennis for helping

me co-host yay oh and thanks to our

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so that's why you haven't heard from me

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so thanks Dennis for co-hosting thanks

for keeping it happening do they do a

gold play button I don't know so that

would be the next cool right we reach 1

million well hopefully yeah I would

think I mean if they're gonna copy

YouTube and might as well copy all the

way right so yeah should we do another

stream when we get our gold play button

ok so there you go I'm not promising a

weekly Dennis live show but I will

promise that Dennis and I will be back

when we have a million followers on

Billy Billy with our gold chinese clone

play button or you can go subscribe on

Beuys yeah you could do that if you

understood I mean the audio is still

English yeah yeah so I need to find us

all right you know follows that stuff

yeah okay go ahead and kill it at

bye-bye

 it's when show time again everyone

I've been having a lot of fun we

actually just shot a crazy video so man

it's not gonna be up for a while and I

hate teasing stuff that's gonna be a

really long time actually we shot two

crazy videos today have you seen the

sleeper Xbox I have not but I've seen

progress

it's amazing the finalized video though

it's amazing the power led is RGB that's

pretty cool one like not obvious thing

about it yeah yeah yeah the front ports

have been changed out for USB and work

cool yeah they were circle yeah so you

can plug controllers into it man like go

full retro if you want but it also has a

wireless Xbox controller adapter okay

and it's got an RT X 27 T in it mmm with

a six core processor so it's like nice

powerful that's cool it's I've always

really liked something like that console

mods have always been cool and it's

probably the best done like it's it's

the most well equipped mod we've done

yet so we actually ended up getting a

metal break like just for this it was

like $700 or something like oh yeah got

like a big metal break so that we could

make the like the metal tray that goes

into the plastic chassis Wow

yeah so that's fancy alex is getting all

kinds of cool equipment over the next

day and we're gonna do some very cool

videos but no the one that I was just

doing was um you know those mining cards

you mean the bender it's called a metal

Brad yeah yeah they like you you put the

thing in the new why does it call the

metal break isn't it a bender

cool all right I was confused for a

second then I was like wait no yeah I

saw that I saw him doing it not my

department

all I see is the invoice all the Brasher

yeah I believe you I just yeah I don't

know but the one we just did was on

those those mining GPUs that don't have

any outputs and our driver a lot so that

they can't be used for gaming okay yeah

did you do something did you flash it

ah you hacked very fun that's cool

so we didn't actually looks like is that

okay is this like two videos and one

then it's no it's just one video okay

cuz um but you convert a card to work

for gaming yeah in that video

yeah it's that's a packed video it's

cheap it's really cheap it's like super

cheap anyway we're not recommending it

fire selling stay tuned stay tuned watch

the video it sounds like a very do not

recommend but a very fun project of the

same it was fun yeah um so we've got a

few kind of big stories for you guys

today

um four planes busy talking about

whether or not I have a dent in my head

that's fun I do in fact but I'm not

going to tell you why do you yeah

it's less obvious but it's here give me

your finger I see yours yeah but it's

right here oh yeah yeah it's pretty

pretty denting here there you go yeah we

have dents in our head it's it runs from

here but it's like much shallower here

so it's less all good yeah all the way

back to about here okay yeah I think

it's actually from hitting my head mine

is too

I'm not sure though okay cuz I didn't ok

well that's very sure about mine okay

so what I did was I was running around I

must have been about I must have been I

wasn't school-aged yet it's my one

memory from before school okay

so that would lead me to think that I

probably tell me yours first though okay

I don't know exact age I'm guessing

three or four my mom's in the doctor's

office yeah I'm chilling with her in the

doctor's office fortunately you were in

a doctor's I know exact that's this is

like the best part about the whole story

I'm sitting on a chair and I both I

can't show the stream that's but I both

my hands grabbing the edge of the chair

yeah and I'm just kind of like dude to

do and I just don't walk too far no I

just went too far and just I'm so I'm

probably like two or three so I just

don't catch myself doctor he just picks

me up puts me on the table stitch back

together

I guess you're good to go way later down

the line we figured I have like this

yeah give it crack kind of thing in my

skull but it's fine so sounds good cool

yeah so

I was playing uh chase me daddy game boy

and I was in socks and there was a

hardwood floor involved and so my dad

was renovating our house for the

umpteenth bazillion of time and doing it

himself

and so you know everything was always

kind of in a state of semi-finished in

the house that I grew up in and anyway I

go so I go whipping around a corner my

legs go out and he had just removed the

door that I was running through and the

hinge was still so as far as I can tell

the angle of it lines up such that I I

smoked the exposed like the cylinder

hinge cylinder and so it actually didn't

break the skin

I didn't bleed but I hit my head really

hard holy cow I'm like I still remember

how upset I was yeah and like that

feeling that was probably the first time

in my life that I was really I have no

control right now whatever happens is

gonna happen and I hurt myself a lot

like that wasn't the sensation that I

like it's more of an emotional memory

that I'm sorry hurts me yeah I was going

full bore like I was only like three or

four or whatever but I was like going

God so there you have it guys you're

getting the news today from people who

have this is pre like people knowing

about her caring about concussions yeah

but we both are DHS dented heads yeah

yeah I was just I was picking up what

you were throwing down right there the

connection makes a little more sense um

so we've got an X data breach update for

you guys yes also flow plane has a

competitor we're gonna be talking about

that and other floatplane news what else

are we going on there's a migration

that's still going on well it's time for

them more later okay let's go ahead and

roll the intro

oops I clicked the wrong thing well that

ship has sailed down I guess we won't be

showing the sponsor logos after the

intro anymore alright so what do we want

to do first do we want to get right into

the NCIX data breach update I want to

drop a migration thingy early

I'm not gonna get into I'm just gonna do

a quick thing like you can tell where he

actually works so as a lot of you but

apparently not everyone know we are

migrating payments from Lana tech tips

calm to Oakland calm for flow plane

subscriptions if you have a floatplane

subscription check out on the forum

there's a banner at the top of the forum

explaining everything or if for some

reason you don't see that you can go to

the ltte official forum and then in

there there's a pinned post talking

about the migration you cancel your sub

and move over to flow plan calm

I'll keep it nice and short and go with

that if you cancel your subscription on

the forum this is something a lot of

people seem to be confused about if you

cancel your subscription on the forum

you don't lose access to your sign-in

option based account on full plane comm

your account is still linked

everything's fine it's just a sign-in

option it's not tied to your

subscription being on Form it's just a

sign-in option everything's cool you can

still log in you're fine and by the way

if you want to convert that sign an

option account to a full account just

sign in with the forum go to your

account go to settings reset your

password and then now it's a full

account or a sign-in option account

they're both great there you go more

information on the forum huzzah now do

you want to talk about the NCIS rage so

this was posted by Rima gonne the forum

the original article is from the c b:c

court blocks actually we should do some

background here first so for the

uninitiated I used to work at a Canadian

computer retailer called NCIX

um as did as did I sort of sort of yeah

yours was a little more ya applicated

like they didn't even they didn't even

try to retain you like when there was a

situation where I was trying to take

someone else with me for founding Linus

Media Group and they were like no if

you're gonna take that person you're

gonna get nothing and with Luke

just like sure does he even work here

technically not well sir I was a

contractor it wasn't even an employee

same with that yeah they just gave zero

apps about you guys like see that's the

thing

they don't even recognize some of their

best talent they're just like let it

walk out the front door and then they

tried to restart the channel afterwards

but they let us go which was like okay

anyway anyway so I used to work at once

if you're not familiar with NCIX they

were kind of like Canadian Newegg and

Canadian Micro Center but because

they're Canadian they were just like

smaller and crappier in every way than

either of companies

I'm not crappier in every way the Newegg

they've done some pretty they've done

some interesting there's some

interesting stuff that's happened over

there actually you know what and I don't

know anything about Micro Center you

know what they were smaller that's all

I'll say

anywho they went out of business over II

was over a year ago holy crap

like late last year and in the course of

going out of business it became even

more apparent to those of us who had

worked there and I guess became apparent

to the people who didn't work there how

poorly run certain aspects of the

business were and one particular aspect

of the business that was in shockingly

poorly run as it came to light was its

data security and its management of

private information yeah so there was a

leak that came to light I don't I don't

remember so I'm not gonna guess but it

came to light sometime after the company

announced its closure and the bankruptcy

auction which I actually attended that

was really it was both kind of he was

both interesting and like kind of

emotional it was interesting you can

check out the video there's actually two

parts but after the bankruptcy auction

it emerged that some of the servers

which I had actually raised questions

about in my video not the server

specifically but the mountains of

customer data that were just sitting

there on pallets on the auction floor

they weren't for sale there wasn't a lot

number on them but like it was just

there nothing would have prevented me

from sitting there and opening

box of invoices and looking through and

just reading people's addresses and

phone numbers it's like it was right

there and so it really came to light

that the handling of private data and

this whole endeavor was not being done

very well and one of the things that a

lot of people wondered about is what

about the servers cuz NCI X's servers

were on they used it started using AWS

about three years before we went down I

guess but I think it was mostly as a

load balancing or like traffic spike

it's the word I'm looking for mitigation

strategy so the site itself was for the

most part hosted out of servers in the

warehouse itself yeah so that means that

all the user data any authentication

that they were doing it was all handled

in-house and to put this in perspective

when I started and it wasn't quite this

bad by the time I left but when I

started the server room was quite

literally those I don't think you ever

saw this those metal wire like racks

that you get at Costco or whatever with

old towers like like full of old towers

like 30 plus 40 plus old towers many of

them just running like Doran's

that was literally what ran the NCIX

website back in that must have been

around 2012 no no no no because LEDs

been around for six years holy crap I

gotta sell AJ on doing that what have

been around six years before that so

save some money on infrastructure would

have been like 2005 2005 2006 that era

that was already unacceptable like even

then yeah so anyway what happened was

the servers showed up in a Craigslist ad

so it turned out that the story as far

as I've been able to follow along with

is that the auctioneer sold the servers

as physical Hardware without any due

diligence having been done either by

NCIX

or its bankruptcy trustee or the

auctioneer actually there

three parties here that didn't do any

due diligence as far as I can tell we're

sold just as Hardware without actually

wiping them yeah because the so the

landlord was frustrated because

apparently they didn't get paid for some

amount of months or whatever so they

were trying to fire sell stuff to get

money back that's why there was the

auction so the landlord didn't care and

they were just like dude so the landlord

was arranging I think the landlord

servers I think the landlord sold the

server okay okay so there's yet another

issue here Wow there if you want a

really really good recount of the

history of how all this kind of stuff

came together there's privacy fly comm

slash articles /nc X underscore breach

or just Google privacy fly NC x breach

but basically what happened was the

servers however the person got them

showed up for sale on Craigslist not as

servers but as specifically servers with

credit card information address

information names phone numbers Social

Insurance numbers which is the Canadian

equivalent of a social security number a

number that you unless you're under

witness protection like cannot change in

your life and is the kind of thing that

is required like an employer has to

collect it in order to create the t4

which is our like annual tax form and

all that kind of stuff to make sure that

people aren't working illegally like

this is actually very important

information for identity thieves to get

their hands on and they were

specifically selling either I think it

was like partial the data or all the

data or the servers with the data if you

didn't want the data getting out to

anyone else and it has been confirmed

that that data even though the police

did raid the guy and confiscate the

servers oh its own it has been confirmed

that that data is out there so anyone

who shopped at NCIX or especially worked

there because they have even more

information about you yeah I mean yeah

and her yeah and other her and tons of

other people and

it doesn't matter anyway the point is

our data is out there so you have to

make sure that you're doing everything

you can to protect it which I've taken

all the sort of usual steps and I'm not

going to talk too much about what I've

done by don't it's done luckily I was

somewhat more protected than you were

although not as protected as a customer

was because I was also a customer

because contractor has some barriers

compared to employees and my side is not

as screwed on so the inference is just

on there a lot of it was unencrypted I

actually got an apology note encrypted

saying you know I did everything I could

and sorry I kind of said ok what did

they do

I don't know if I can tell nothing not

enough I have tried nothing and I'm all

out of ideas

dban is really hard the thing that kind

of baffles me about all of this really

is

ok so the thing with a bankruptcy

trustee is that they'll come in like

unexpectedly so that you won't have a

chance to like you know walk out of the

office with a bunch of GTX whatever's

you know to just flip on Craigslist

after the fact like that's a thing that

there's someone in lock the doors but

like and snacks must have known that it

was closed like if I knew that sometime

in the next month I've already let all

of the staff go sometime in the next

month or so you know that might be the

time to kind of like encrypts and drives

yeah I'm not saying delete everything

like like pour gasoline on it and light

it on fire I'm saying maybe at least in

credit or pour gasoline on and land on

fire or that or dban it depends really

easy Derek's new thing is like there was

a whole thing where the original owner

slash trustee had a disagreement about

who owned the IP of like the actual

platform on which the site was built

because it was like sort of a separate

company blah blah Blee tried to buy it

at one point yeah anyway one of the

things that they disagreed who owned was

the actual customer data and that was

something they were actually trying to

sell so they didn't want to just light

it on fire okay but you

can anyway I'm gonna jump in and say one

quick thing about the landlord thing

apparently n2x is previous landlord a

bit was owed about $150,000 in past due

rent now and they had abandoned the

hardware there

the landlord decided to try to recover

some of the money at the abandoned

warehouse so they worked with someone

named Jeff in exchange for trying to

recover some of the money he was able to

copy the source code and database

because he claimed it was to help his

development team on a project so he got

the source code for the web site and all

the database information and all the

servers because he was given them in

order to try to sell them so then he

just copied all the data off him okay so

cool that's really great

right sorry Nick I will get to you in

one second here we're just cut we're

getting through this like very heavy

topic here yes yeah

no one probably wants it anyway it's

probably not worth it okay ah shoot I

forget where I was gonna go with this

but anyway so this whole thing happened

a lot of people were really mad and so

there was a proposed class-action suit

yeah about that where people were like

they were mad I mean that's how

class-action suits against land and

people's like full customer information

including full address and credit card

number and everything and employees like

very important information was all

leased this will cause financial damage

yes in some form will yeah or probably

has already yeah so they were alleging

that there is a massive personal data

breach and that they should be

compensated in some way but the ruling

on it so far is that the class action

will not be allowed to proceed against

the trustee for the bankrupt NCIX

and that is the Bolar group other

defendants included NC axis landlord

this is the really confusing thing I

don't know how NC acts managed to owe

their landlord so much because they

actually owned that building up until

the fire sale leading up to NCIX

ultimately dissolving so they couldn't

have been owing their landlord that much

because they wouldn't have been paying

rent until the ownership of the building

actually changed now that's more common

than you would think a company selling

the building that it occupies no I erase

I understand that part I don't

understand that like this I am they had

a lot of building space but it still

shouldn't have been a hundred and fifty

grand I don't they do not a lot of

building space though in a pretty high

desirable well I can tell I can tell you

based on what I know about commercial

lease rates which I know a thing or two

about I can tell you that that building

probably cost in the neighborhood of

forty plus thousand dollars a month to

lease so it could have been three months

yeah so okay maybe it's not that

unbelievable maybe they literally never

paid them after they saw the building

that could have happened they could have

sold the building and never paid back yo

we just gave you like thirteen million

dollars we know you have the money like

what a complicated relationship that is

yeah um okay so the potential defendants

for the Bowa group the trustee NCIX is

landlord and the company responsible for

auctioning off the computer firms old

equipment so the plaintiff former NCIX

customer Warner Kipling says he gave the

company his name address and debit and

credit card details and claims the firm

failed to properly encrypt that

information and the personal data of at

least a quarter million people the thing

that irks me on this part is they didn't

even it doesn't even seem like they

tried like it's not like they had a

security system in place and there was a

failure or a breach it was like they had

unencrypted data and they gave it away

so because NCIX is bankrupt the claim

against it was state automatically what

money there's no money now it's possible

to sue the trustee but only with the

express leave of the court this extra

step is necessary to protect officers of

the court including trustees from

baseless frivolous or vexatious lawsuits

which was either which would otherwise

interfere with the due administration of

the bankruptcy estate so supreme court

master described the plaintiff's

evidence as inherently unreliable and as

bear allegations not supported by fact

the plaintiff has not satisfied even the

relatively low threshold required to

justify the court exercising its

discretion in favor of leave she said

that there simply wasn't enough

admissible evidence to allow the claim

to proceed so here's the evidence Morna

submitted an affidavit swearing his

belief that customer databases were

mishandled during bankruptcy proceedings

under the supervision of the trustee

there was a post on the cyber cyber

security website privacy fly by Travis

turning during excuse me and he alleged

he'd seen customers financial

information and the personal tax details

of former NCIX employees anyway if I

during filed an affidavit not affidavit

on behalf of Warner but it is very

difficult to extract any admissible and

reliable evidence from that document

there's information taken from blog

posts and YouTube videos created by two

people who said they attended the NCIX

equipment auction

however warned and did not obtain legal

affidavits from those two people so the

response is that it's inherently

inherently unreliable and amounts to

double hearsay Richmond RCMP opened an

investigation into the breach in

September but that ended without police

recommending any charges and basically

people's privacy has been compromised

but there's really the biggest problem I

have no other chase is what's this

essentially opened a door for any I

guess Canadian company in the future to

just willfully sell em any data they

want

now that's deficient illegal has not

been set for that being okay

they just haven't allowed this case to

move forward okay so if you do it even

slightly under the table you're almost

certainly fine unless that is so if the

data could actually don't recommend

anything I'm just saying like they got

away with it pretty if if Warner here

had the data set and went I obtained

this illegally here it is I mean a that

might put him at all no trouble problem

but anyway that wouldn't be double

hearsay that would be here's the actual

data that would be more difficult to

ignore yeah so we can't say that under

different circumstances this might not

have gone differently but what we do to

at least seize the servers as far as I

know yeah

I don't know if they had been wiped

already though I don't think we've

gotten any further update on that but

the point is a lot of people's data is

out there and we should all be really

careful about who we give our data to

because in the

that that entity disappears there's

absolutely nothing that can really be

done to this is a part of the reason

gdpr is a thing on actually you know the

subject of people who are not

necessarily working in your best

interests having control of your data

ties into a lot of the reason for that

potential floatplane

I think competitors probably the wrong

word but potential alternative video

platform that is also being worked on in

the same space being created yeah but

first I will let Nick jump in with

whatever it is that he needs I'm sorry

Nick you were standing there for a while

my angel bird should be here I think

it's been here for a long time I don't

know where it is theoretically it's not

in my office I think it was given to an

editor like over two years ago and never

returned so I have no idea where it is

it's it's not gonna be found so in other

news what are they called again yeah

they don't have a name is it no they

don't aim for it okay there's there's

multiple sections where they talk about

I think that video is probably the most

direct in terms of talking about it let

me see if I can find this I wouldn't

play it no I'm not going to I don't want

like yeah yeah basically though here's

the page so Jordan Peterson certainly a

polarizing figure uploaded a video

called goodbye to patreon on January 1st

2019 so this was three days ago and

basically the summary is that well

there's a lot of stuff in there that I'm

not gonna unpack on this show but the

summary is that right now the position

that PayPal MasterCard Visa the the main

one that I know of is MasterCard yeah

and the like but well it's that the

processors yeah is one of such power

that it has the potential to cause

enormous problems

for freedom of expression and that is

something that we have actually been

discussing already because of what's

been going on over at patreon and we

have already been working on our own

contingency plans for for a floatplane

yeah but in a nutshell what happened was

a couple of again I'm just gonna call

them polarizing figures because that's

the easiest most neutral way that I can

go about this and that really is our

position Switzerland yeah a couple of

polarizing figures were recently Bend

from patreon removed from the platform

forcibly in some cases over actions that

they had taken that were not actually

even on the patreon platform yeah

patreon is position in all of this has

been that we're sorry this has to happen

but it has to happen because at the end

of the day if MasterCard doesn't like

something that you said over there and

tells us if we allow money to be

funneled to you then they're just gonna

pull the ability for us to accept

mastercard money outright from the site

which would hurt thousands tens of

thousands of other creators then we just

are gonna have to kick you off to throw

patreon a ball here they're in a really

rough spot MasterCard and payment

processors or whoever put them in a very

very awkward position where they are

being effectively forced to play moral

police in a way that I don't think was

ever really in their vision um you know

patreon has certainly drawn lines in the

sand for what type of content they allow

on their platform but this was not one

that they had traditionally drawn and

they are putting in a position where

they are not even the ones who are able

to dictate what's on their platform and

it's not even about what's on their

platform because in at least one of

these cases the infraction so to speak

took place off platform of patreon so it

was just a particular individual that

had been specifically targeted by the

payment processor someone saying here

correction in

interview someone Jaclyn Smith I don't

know who that is said it was completely

patreon I don't know okay I don't know

so we do know from our own dealings with

payment processors that that doesn't

seem that likely yeah yep

I don't think we should go way too deep

into that now the payment processors are

very it is it is shocking how many

arbitrary lines in the sand appear to be

drawn so on the one hand I can pull my

visa out of my pocket in a convenience

store and I can buy a porno mag on the

other hand if I am an online business

then being able to accept money from

that payment processor for unauthorized

content which isn't clearly documented

anywhere could all of a sudden be a big

no-no fly yeah we don't have a clear

answer because they don't answer those

kinds of questions so we we understand

the position that people are in and as

we've alluded to before we have our own

mitigation strategies that we are

already working on yeah but basically I

guess that's just the news that

alternative video platforms with

potentially millions of dollars of

fundings so I think you had said that

he's kind of alluded to a project he's

talking about working on a so in this

video he talks about how they they were

originally planning on going online with

their alternative on January 15th which

would if you can even assume remotely

how much work would have to go into

something like this if it's gonna have a

chance of not being blown out of the

water in terms of costs from stuff like

AWS it's gonna take a little while to

build so I assume they've been working

on something for a while my vibe from

this video was a little different from

yours though like it sounds pretty early

stages they did they did however say

that they're pulling back and they're

not actually launching on the 15th but

regardless they somewhat like they're

launching very soon I hope for their

sake they're not setting themselves up

on

a sewer or AWS or something because

don't you tank themselves they could

have done it much more quickly than us

that way though yes

so floatplane is not set up in the same

way it is built using or much more it's

hard to find the right word without it

sounding bad affordable approach yeah

well but it's sustainable yeah that was

the point if you drop one thing if you

think about the amount of if you think

what the companies that have setups like

AWS like a zoo or something like that

all of them have an online video

platform that is somehow attached to

their company yes all of them bandwidth

out for all of them is

disproportionately expensive for no

really explained reason I wonder why

what takes a lot of bandwidth on the

internet video they don't really want

competing companies to pop up in terms

of video platforms it is not in Amazon's

best interest no for twitch to continue

to exist independently taking up what

percentage of like web traffic with

explicit from points like that I don't

it was enormous yes ma'am I couldn't

remember live streaming is very

demanding so so I mean okay yes we're

wearing our tinfoil hats what Microsoft

video platform is mixer lol there's one

yep yep I mean microsoft also has the

ability you have the ability mr. by

content in the yeah yes the ability to

buy content in the Xbox Marketplace for

example I don't forget what it's called

it's called Xbox store now I don't I

know it doesn't matter the point is

Microsoft serves plenty of video don't

worry about it yep it's a thing so we're

going a little tinfoil hat here but the

point is we did it our way for a

specific reason and that reason was that

we have always seen Google as a valuable

partner at line or a group because

especially at the very beginning we

relied on Google for our very existence

if Google turned turned us off then we

would just not exist and so we have been

planning for the eventualities where

Google might just shut us off or shut

YouTube off in general or decide

arbitrarily okay

we're gonna instead of doing a 60/40 cut

on Adsense we're gonna do ninety ten

haha what are you gonna do about it

we've been preparing ourselves for that

eventualities

so there are valued partner but we trust

them about as far as we can throw them

you think about how big Google is that's

probably not very far and well to be

clear at the same time too in basically

all realms of business you want to

diversify your income stream so you can

survive whatever so balance that was why

the forum wasn't a Facebook page that

was why floatplane wasn't going to be

built on AWS because it's not just

Google it's just anyone putting yourself

in a position where your means of

existence is solely reliant on the whims

of forces that are much larger than

yourself

it's just it's not it's not smart and

it's not a great idea so to the best of

your ability I would encourage anyone to

to work towards less reliance on one

singular thing yes not having all your

eggs in one basket I mean it all comes

back to it should we stop speaking it

should be like announce the feature that

we're using right now for in it speaking

of like we want to promote not using one

single pairing so I forget what feature

it is what feature are we using right

now the streaming thing oh yeah right

that's really cool oh cool yeah this

isn't available for all creators on flow

plane yet we're like kind of yeah we're

like kind of beta testing it with ltte

but if we really well I promise you

we'll hear from Luke very soon if you

haven't already about getting

live-streaming going for you yeah so but

we have a really cool feature which is

basically rtmp on our side so we have it

set up where you can stream to

floatplane do you want to explain what

rtmp is it's like a restream with the

yeah I go okay I'm doing that right

thank you

so you stream to float plane and then

pump punch in your keys for YouTube and

twitch and whoever else but that's all

we have right now but it's not really

hard so whoever else theoretically we

could support kind of anything that

supports rtmp sources right streaming

sources yeah yeah that should be No

just streaming sources in general yeah

so yeah right now this stream is going

to flow plane and my coming from flow

plane to twitch and youtube so we are

handling that on our side because that's

something that is confusing and tricky

for a lot of creators you have to set up

a server you have to do all this other

kind of junk do some command line things

and that's above a lot of people yeah so

we're gonna handle that for you because

we think being on multiple platforms

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they're kind of clunk so so floatplane

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way the whole model works this is yeah

we're we're out to continue to build

services that just make it easier to

diversify yeah

we think it's a really cool thing and I

I was like that's gonna be very

technically difficult and then AJ was

like no no it's not and I was like okay

sweet let's do it it's not even actually

costing us a ton more bandwidth no just

really sweet because of how some things

are organized yeah AJ architecting

things in the first place that's

actually a big thing that we're working

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reason you're not seeing a ton of

updates because we're really working

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Jordan plane or whatever they end up

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every alternative video platform that

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you can't share it publicly especially

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normalizing non patreon sources of

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yeah speaking of Dave's again we don't

care this is something I in the QA thing

that did last week this is something I

kept on nailing home because we had a

lot of questions about this type of

stuff is we don't care if you must know

I I think I've decided to do a chapter

I've been meaning to do a book for a

long time yeah like partly because just

like it seems like everyone's doing it

um but also just because there's kind of

a lot that I had to say that I don't

necessarily feel comfortable doing in

video the thing about reading and I plan

to actually talk about this in it as

well but the thing about reading is that

you're sort of inherited inherently

limiting your audience to people who are

willing to read okay so I kind of feel

like at the same time we can have a more

private conversation someone's gonna

scan it so just post it online yes who's

gonna grab a single line but someone has

to read it yep I'm just preparing you

yep yeah so anyway I to have a chapter

discussing my personal politics which is

oh boy

thing that I have never done before the

reason that I've never done it is that

it's not that simple and again I feel

like the only everyone sells stock and

LTG yeah right

so the only way for me to tackle it

though I feel is in written form where I

can I can lay out all my points I can

reconstruct them to make sure that

they're getting across correctly and I

can do it in a way that's far more

verbose than most people are willing to

sit through in a video type of setting

because the problem with video is they

don't

the problem with video yeah is that even

though you can say all those things you

could read that entire script I mean

that's the point of audiobooks and

podcasts right is that you can long-form

long-form audio audio-visual content the

problem with it is that I have access to

the retention graphs the majority of

people in a long format video will never

hear the closing argument that's a big

problem

so anyway again I think you're gonna

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people sniping parts of the book and

posting it online you can but at least

in that case you've already you've

already laid it out and I mean yeah

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no matter what I say people are gonna

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our absence understood that reference

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yes it was holy cow I got one voice so

do you want to talk about Google's

touchless gesture control using radar

sure so this is project soli and the

idea is that they weren't able to they

weren't able to move forward with it

until now because they had to increase

the power levels of the radar above like

regulated levels in order to get it to

work but basically it uses radar

technology to detect the locations of

your hands and your fingers and allow

you to interact with virtual interfaces

okay so it's like a whole new level of

theremin yeah so you could you could

turn a virtual dial yeah or flick a

virtual switch

or play a virtual keyboard or whatever

like the possibilities are kind of

limitless you could make virtual

gestures you could do sign language into

your frikken you know this this box

under your monitor and especially

especially mixed with augmented reality

that'll be pretty huge pretty is if you

can see the thing that you're still

sweet interacting with like there's a

numpad on the back your hand you get to

interact with it honestly you could be

pretty accurate if it filled the back

your head but if you could actually see

it then that would be pretty cool

you could wear virtual stuff like cuz

because obviously you wouldn't be able

to do that with just radar but we're

talking radar data combined with camera

data combined with you know I mean we're

gonna get to the point where our

computers have so many friggin sensors

like right now we've got a webcam oh boy

we are like just at the beginning it's

gonna have infrared it's gonna have like

a motion sensors when you're like

sweating it's gonna be able to tell that

you're like afraid like it oh he's

afraid so home survival surprise yeah we

are heading into a very sort of

interesting future um so anyway after

the initial debut of the prototype blah

blah blah blah blah blah okay yeah I

basically covered covered everything

that's in the notes there thank you

games anyway though else we got we want

to talk about the guy behind China's

largest torrent site jailed sure there's

another I'm gonna try to find it while

you talk about that but there's

something I want to talk about which is

a poll on the forum someone actually

used the forum poll thing and it was

based around I gotta try to find I think

some to general discussion but it's

talking about optical drives in your

computer's whether or not you have them

optical drive survey here it is someone

posted it in the floatplane chat during

the big stream you did earlier today and

the results are super weird and I want

when show people to vote on it so that

we see gave me a screen share you sure

let me know when you're ready in the

meantime I've got a topic for you guys

sorry tech quickie VR ownership doubled

in 2018 so tech quickie just uploaded a

video about why did VR crash and

basically the community response has

been excuse me

VR did not crash so steams monthly

hardware survey suggests that the

proportion of PC players with the VR

headset plugged in roughly doubled in

2018 now the part that it's really hard

to go from four to eight the part that

we're supposed to the part that I feel

like I should probably point out is that

it went from point two percent to point

four percent from two to four yeah point

to know I know some point was making

yeah yeah

I love VR guys but like now it did also

go to 0.8 percent in December survey so

this is about 720,000 of steams

ninety million monthly active users for

context the proportion of steam users

running a Linux based system also sits

at about eight percent now here's a

question for you if we did a video about

why did Linux crash for gaming would

anybody have objected to it I know one

person white sake what up dude outside

of that I don't know so yeah the thing

is with VR and like oculus has the new

thing they announced have you seen that

they all in one yeah yeah yeah and that

that'll be really interesting when it

hits the table and stuff but there was a

love John there was a few notes that I

sent to John about the why did VR crash

video yeah it didn't end up getting put

in and maybe would have helped some

context on a few different things yeah

but it it it's it's not it's not doing

great and I follow all the different sub

reddits I do all the different things

I'm still very much in the VR community

it's not doing as well as it was and

when I was literally in the oculus

headquarters at Facebook I talked to

this dude from Naughty Dog and he was

talking about how yup it's not really

going quite as well as we had hoped and

we don't suspect it's going to for the

next like three to five years now they

know this this isn't us just saying it

this isn't other people observing it

it's not dead no so rhythm game beat

saver was was among the top grossing VR

titles on Steam for 2018 and it sold a

hundred thousand copies in less than a

month at launch and Mountain blade super

cool and ham sabers

cool there's still titles that are

coming out that are really cool they're

still content creators and making videos

about the games idle a box we are last

night it's still it's still a thing the

thing that I think the VR community

should be really proud about and should

be latching on to is VR is here to stay

now people are making money in the space

it's not going to disappear ancing VR

has been attempted many times throughout

history and is finally kind of making it

but it's not nearly the smash hit that I

think people were hoping it would be

known including Facebook yes and plenty

of other companies and there are lots of

other problems that will continue to

exist five-ever I'm sorry I'm sorry I

said five ever no that's okay what can I

do for you

prompter no prompter we should bring it

just in case

I just want is good yeah there's there's

Pro and like some of those things are

being worked on I've been saying for a

very long time it's going to be hard to

get the general public into VR

until you get your hands and feet in and

until you get some haptic feedback in

and until you're not trying to sell the

general public garbage drilling yes

you're frakkin well bad tracker not even

that I'm talking like the all-in-one

like inside out tracking that just isn't

good yeah and like now I've seen better

inside out tracking than before the

Little Rock tried it no it's better

there's been notable improvements and

there's been new experience the whole

time does makes reality but the thing is

is that the rate of progress and I'm

gonna say something that you might not

like but the rate of progress to me

indicates that VR will never make it VR

will morph and it will become a are so

VR is the devil is the the developmental

stage so have you seen a transparent

display yet yes okay so with that in

mind I think there will be two separate

things

I don't think VR is gonna be necessarily

the same as it is right now the reason

why I think VR is going to still be big

is because people's desire to close out

everything okay is pretty high okay

and I think that's where VR space will

be is removing reality I don't

want to be here anymore I want a scape

ISM I want everything gone I want to sit

in my room and have it all go away and

then I think AR is also going to be

massive potentially even bigger right

but I think they will yeah I think

they're growing kind of in parallel

right now and I think they will split

even more so I should clarify I don't I

wouldn't have made an argument that

sound if I'd realized what I was doing I

wouldn't have made an argument that

sounded like VR will disappear

completely I just don't think it will

hold a candle to the success of AR once

that really happened I feel like VR is

going to be home console big ok I feel

like AR is going to be cellphone's big

ok I think that's probably fair I don't

know that VR will be home console big I

then I don't know we're talking way far

reaching stuff I could be super wrong

I'm not gonna fall on that sword I just

I think it's gonna be pretty big it

depends on like it depends on where

we're a are goes there may be practical

limits to what we can do with they are

and so if we get display technologies

that are high enough density for a true

virtual desktop experience like that's

something that I really foresee as a way

to work better but that's why I'm saying

yeah cell phone big like everybody's got

a cell phone

ok but what I'm saying is like if AR

can't get there if they are damned if VR

gets good enough that the display

density is so fine that I can really

feel like I am sitting in a real space

where I can read crisp text on a virtual

monitor in front of me and I can have

another one up there or whatever else I

could see for productivity oh that's

like that's the end game sure I know

people people should I do that now and

it's not so like just please understand

the VR subreddit guys and other places

there's there was a post that I saw very

recently that was like pretty big that

was like this is why we say no when they

say VR is dying it's because we want it

to survive we're not we have to be

realistic when were when were standing

in the reviewers

dance we have to be realistic yeah I

can't say it is currently the second

coming when it's not because we will

lose credibility VR is really cool right

now I think it has a lot of really cool

applications the Box VR is really sweet

did you try

I haven't what's what I've heard from

that I can't put VR in my house my roof

is too low I don't fit you could just

borrow some light stands for a bit and

just like once the roof is too low oh

okay yeah

anyways anyway really cool the beat

saber is wicked I have played that just

not at my house cuz I can't sit up here

on my house but beat saber is really

really cool and like I one thing that I

always have been saying from the start

is that getting nerds and including

myself up and out of their chair and

doing things is such a cool so there's

there's two major friction points here

getting nerds moving and then getting

normies to wear like goggles and that

will get sweat on it and that takes up

like like you see picture of people like

gonna enjoy VR this weekend and they've

mood all moved all their furniture out

of the way like that's actually too much

of a barrier for a lot of people when

they come home from work and they just

want to flop on the couch like

unfortunately I was saying I played box

VR last night but then the counterpoint

that I didn't bring up was that I

haven't touched my headset in over three

months and there's no there is a lot of

people that play basically every day and

that's freaking awesome there is a very

dedicated community and there are people

making money making VR games and there

is very healthy things in the space but

it didn't explode like it was supposed

to yeah they were making VR specific PC

cases they were making VR capable or

compatible hardware which was too stupid

like all the stuff was stupid but that's

how big the industry thought it was

gonna be I would sit in meetings with

different companies and they would be

like we don't know if we want to release

this product because we don't know how

to tie it into VR and like what you're

fine no one cares

it's Durden me so crazy for a long time

but that's where the industry thought it

was going that is currently dead right

VR is doing fine and will grow like

crazy and will be massive and it's gonna

be fantastic I'm super excited for the

future but we're not in that boom state

that a lot of people thought we're going

to be in the meantime we're still gonna

need these if you want multiple displays

on your laptop the original article here

is from laptop mag comm and this is a

dell patent drawing for a laptop that

has the computer in the middle and a

foldable display on either side and

apparently some means of like so it

looks like a rail on display dual

displaying it or something I don't know

exactly how it works but it looks pretty

cool to me I'm you just get us BMO

monitors that's the thing be cool and

stuff but that's clergy this is maybe it

looks like you rail them on so I don't

know how not clutch another steam no

longer supports Windows XP or Vista so

Windows 7 and 8.1 will continue to be

supported for the time being so suck it

XP and Vista users and I guess that's

pretty much it for the one show today do

you have anything else just like kind of

random you wanted to talk about her I'll

maybe do the same thing I did last week

that's cool how'd our floodplain Stream

go that was disturb was that was James

going like this on his boobie but with

his shirt all the way I thought he was

trying to make like farts no no it was

just like slap jiggling is boobie okay

yeah interesting that's oh we should

probably do some super chats I guess are

you gonna talk about CES see yes I have

no idea what's going on at CES no I just

like Nick booked all my meetings I'm

just gonna like I'm gonna walk in and be

like oh cool

I have a meeting with like the usual

suspects so I'm gonna see Razer sure I

know of at least a couple cool things

from a soos because our CES videos were

shot in the studio like two weeks ago I

know okay that makes sense it's and it

has always made sense yeah we should

honestly there should be no reason for

us to have to go to sea you know really

shouldn't

did you just ship it to us and then

we'll just forward it to the show yeah

and then our videos could be better they

could be more well informed they could

be we could take our time they could be

more information you know what no what

they should do

no it you know what you should do yeah

we should have

CES at Linus Media Group headquarters

bring in like Kyle bring in J bring in

Paul bring in everybody you know what

LTS let's just turn LT X into like the

better CES yeah yeah sweet

LT X is gonna be sick all the creators

want to show up already anyway those

guys better have an update on the blog

Colton there is this

I chose there an update there is alright

there is let's do it cuz last week last

week there was no update Colton -

updates I think I only saw one okay

Colton Potter January 1st explore back

wait hold on a second Colton is this

just a picture click on it click on that

well can't I click on this one if that's

a different one well I want to see both

of them but that's old that just links

to click on the new one

oh I see ok it's really confusing like

where the line is it's like yeah ok like

the title is like this could just as

easily be this and this this picture

yeah ok can we change that Colton

alright thanks LTX 2019 bigger better

for previous years our most important

goal was to put on a fun event first and

foremost but being new to the whole

event thing we ended up with a lot of

randomness it was still really fun like

a hamster ball run it's fun that was fun

we ended up with a bit of an identity

crisis so this time things are gonna be

much more fun and engaging and also more

focused so here's what we're doubling

down on tech and gaming I heard from a

very small youtuber quite recently with

a really cool collection of retro tech

that they're like yeah I'd be like down

to come up so we have gotten but as far

as I know we are supposed to have gotten

back to this person don't guess because

it's probably not who you're guessing

I've watched a lot of small okay anyway

we're getting back to this part we or we

have gotten back to we will cover your

flight we will cover transportation for

all your stuff we are not gonna have

we're gonna put some money into a booth

cool for all your stuff to be there

where there's still some parts of the

agreement that we need to work on

because we can

be liable for the stuff getting damaged

like yeah we are we are doubling down on

tech community and creators so we're in

the process of locking down our first

draft of the event layout but we're

gonna share that with you as soon as we

can

and we figured out most of the crazy

booth ideas and are now in the process

of contracting companies to build them

so some returning fan favorites include

the case toss and we're gonna make it

fairer because it okay cases previous LT

exes came to a there were different

cases but honestly that's not the huge

issue because people can pick what case

they throw so that's on them but the

cases would fall apart yeah we would

disintegrate by the end of the event so

people at the end would be able to throw

much further so we are going to plastic

wrap them we're gonna shipping wrap them

so that all these stuff will still the

amount of weight you'll see so it'll be

the same way the dynamics will still be

different but yes it'll be a lot closer

what can I do for you Eddie my prompter

remote okay the blindfold mindful the

cable management will be back and we

have new ideas like the gaming setup

challenge so this one you're already

gonna have everything but you actually

have to build your chair desk set up

your PC cable manage your whole setup

and then snap a pic woah it's gonna be

cool that will take a while it'll take a

while but the idea was we wanted things

that people can actually interact with

for a while and we're gonna do the

prising really differently as well so on

top of a grand prize that we announced

at the end of the event we also want to

do intermediate prizes to encourage

obstacle to to participate at any given

time I know some people do one a day or

something yeah so you can spread it out

we wanted a I know you're gonna have

people monitoring these booths is there

gonna be like a shoutcaster is the

gaming setup thing competitive or is it

just one at a time so it's competitive

and there will be multiple ones but you

won't be competing head-to-head

okay okay so I'm gonna on a grand kind

of yeah okay leaderboard II kind of like

yeah I'm super won last year yeah okay

yeah we're gonna have a headphone

testing zone that's one thing that is so

hard to like we've almost outright stop

doing headphone videos because it's so

hard to get across what they're like

this is very cool

so the idea is that you'll be able to

really like try in person close back

open back oh it's - who the Colton

Stephanie whatever lots of cleansing

wipes yes please complete hands on PC

building workshop that'll be there we're

hoping to end up with at least 50 booths

this year plus cool stuff to see and do

so that the queue times aren't nearly as

extreme the VR booth will be back

our goal is anywhere from 10 to 15 VR

setups I was literally talking to Joe

about that yesterday yeah because we

only had three last year and it was it

was quite the choke point there's even

talk of a pre or after party I don't

know if I'll be able to attend

personally but you know and then of

course there's dream hacks involvement

so they'll be handling our oh we're

apparently announcing how many seats a

400 plus BYOC seats noise there will be

a few play zone plus more to be

announced at a later date and a free

play zone on stage we plan to include

more segments there's more than that

many computers because there's 400 plus

BYOC specific yeah and a free play out

and free play zones are usually fairly

sizable at those types of it yeah that's

pretty beast on stage panels Q&A; is a

few surprises and then we're in early

stages of gating creator involvement we

don't want to promise anything but we

can say that having js to sense Barclays

see from gamers INXS Lewis rossmann

having those guys there last year was a

total blast so that is definitely

something we're pursuing and definitely

something we are already talking to

people about can we do a floatplane QA

sure that seems cool yeah there's bound

to be someone there that wants to talk

to you about that just checklist er I

can't I can't promise anything because

if there's cooler stuff you're gonna get

bumped yeah but and it might not be able

to be mainstage but we could almost

definitely do it somewhere cool yeah

yeah cuz we're gonna have like a creator

meetup place and that you could

basically do like a creator meetup Oh

perfect yeah yeah yeah we're also gonna

have a floatplane people there so I

think would be cool to like cool yeah so

yeah it's gonna be sick and that's

pretty much it guys

oh wait I said I promised I would do

some super chats also can I do my thing

what thing the thing I did last time

yes okay I'm gonna do a stream after

this people are gonna spam the name of

the

in chat probably but I switch on TV /

lieutenant squarely afar it will have a

focus especially at the start when it

actually happens because it seems to die

off as it did last week but it will have

a strong focus of floatplane QA

there's the migration happening if you

have any questions about the migration I

would strongly prefer you ask me there

instead of emailing right now we have a

massive amount of email tickets a huge

percentage of which are just questions

about random things about floatplane

instead of getting help about migrating

your account which is totally fine but

we're really buried right now so I would

prefer if you ask your questions to me

in in like a chat basis thing so other

people can hear the answer - yes yeah

exactly yeah because we we might have

like 300 right now so yeah there's

probably morning so that's scary um this

weekend this is not related to your

topic but I would like your advice I

work for a company that does home

automation and networking for clients

second super chat this is fan of fan is

fan 64 I am on the lower totem pole of

the job ie grunt work running wires and

such I try to do their networking which

they said they're willing to teach me

but the terminologies and all that and

they're they're all experienced already

it makes it quite difficult for me my

question is would it benefit me to

actually take a course for networking or

grin and bear it and try to learn from

my company slowly but surely I would

definitely recommend doing at least some

basic course work when it comes to

networking just having that sort of

Eureka moment of how exactly the

topology works is probably worth the

investment do you know I agree I would

be careful about what course you're

taking them because if having a

certificate or diploma or degree is not

going to directly help your career

there's quite a few courses in that

stack that will not necessarily help you

so try to make sure that you're picking

what course you take as a one-off so you

don't take like an introductory course

that teaches you what an Ethernet cable

'yes yes that is a thing there's some

really really basic stuff to do that so

if you're already in the career I would

recommend not wasting your time if you

have if you want some advice actually

there's a ton of people with experience

about

on the ltte floors I would strongly

recommend creating an account there and

posting just posting your question there

yeah Doberman sorry we aren't planning

another overclocking video in the near

future Alan you're welcome for the help

a fusion plays thanks for being a new

member

Dominic says it's 2019 what says 2018

people are telling me to change the date

to 2018

what Oh stream title oops I changed that

well you also like bugged it up after Oh

so I think somewhere in the fix it got

dropped it might have been me or who

knows I'm not sure I'm box warehouse

says can I get a selfie yes I don't know

not promising anything it's got every

year it's gotten harder and harder for

me to walk around on the show floor yeah

pars of all hey we from extreme hosting

have sent an email to you guys please

check it out ok Austin says I thought

your iPhone 10's review is pretty harsh

but then I watched one bang Nellas video

or however you spell his name ok thanks

Alex says it's 2019 thanks hi Linus I'm

in need of a data storage server where

can I have or where one where I can have

a drive assigned to a person need

hardware software advice oh boy

forum yeah there's some really

knowledgeable people on the forum like

for Peter 8 Wow

my Peter knows everything and he's been

there forever he's very very basic

Mukherjee yes yeah

BJ am ceci says I just wanted to say I

came here to say that I'm gonna watch

the archive when you're done by pretty

good McHale says I follow you you should

follow me it's up to you all other than

that always love your show and send a

hundred and fifty dollars whoa I hate to

be that guy but I'm not gonna follow

because I don't do that I actually it's

like a total like troll on the Linus

tech tips Instagram account we follow

only one thing LTX and I think I might

have actually unfollowed it recently

because like an Instagram hilarious

every time I not every time I open the

app but oh that time it did it and then

it disappeared so a lot of the time so I

open the app there's this like thing

that's like hey you should people you

follow will show up here hey and I just

don't know we still follow one guess

what boom LTS unfollow direct follow for

follow or or that kind of stuff is not

it's just I have never done it once but

not legitimate anyways but yeah um

Carson just started watching your

channel and join you a lot thanks Carson

yeah I then on yes we know it's not the

right date Jack says I've been watching

forever guys two capitals on forever

guys not familiar with the show

yeah thanks Jackson ah open 1209 look at

the date it's not 2018 yeah okay I den

why would you not start a platform ie

floatplane on AWS and then revert to

your own hardware after that is a

tremendous question and we are we

actually have reasons yeah insane amount

of start-up costs for that you just be

bleeding through the nose the entire

time you're on there it's also hard to

infrastructure pivot that's like a

pretty weird thing to do what we plan on

doing once we get it to work is have

load balancing set up so that we can pop

off to those really expensive services

if we get if we get to the point where

we can't serve good quality to everyone

and then we'll have time to bump up our

infrastructure at the same time but

getting those things all working is

difficult we also didn't necessarily

know what scale we wanted when we first

started full plane there's like there's

there's a lot to it for our part now

that we're down this path it's much

easier to build the best thing we can

build and then fall back to CDN if

needed yes because we're already a chunk

into it okay neuro says it's also like

like seriously you could you could bury

yourself doing that strategy so it's

also really scary apparently neuro

technology exploration would love us to

check out a video on the future of

computing HCI brain computer interfaces

and apparently the research group has

done a bunch of work so that's

interesting sounds potentially cool

shuh 125 this is a good one look I made

it home last time I did this I was

pretty drunk

what I was talking about last time I

sent a flag to Luke from overseas no I

immediately recognized great thanks for

the everything building a new system

first build ever love you guys act super

chats I'm actually super stoked that Xu

made at home I'm very happy that you

made it home

I know Shu she was super cool you rent a

hundred and fifty bucks just now whoa

okay I can't read the dollar amounts

from here but yeah you've read shus

letter oh did I that was the flag oh

that thing that's Shu oh that was

awesome yeah oh she's super cool how's

it going glad you made it home dude yeah

also that all right Ben asked winter LTX

tickets for sale oh what a good question

Nick you don't happen to know do you put

a lot of people okay sorry we haven't

announced it yet stay tuned guys I think

we're still working out some details of

Dreamhack like as you can imagine with a

partnership like this there's a lot of

stuff to work out who gets how much

floor space who takes how much of the

ticket revenue blah de blah de blah and

we're committed to working with them and

they're committed to working with us

like we're gonna we're gonna get her

done but we can't really put tickets on

sale until we've agreed on how much is

it going to cost so okay just like HR

penguin says can't wait for our Linus

controversy

I sense he'll go full PewDiePie LTE meme

reviews for the win LT Tom

claps graphics card alright

thanks John Williams and that's all the

super chats we can do for today we will

see you guys again next week same

bat-time same bat-channel holy crap we

went way over time oh yeah it's almost

7:00

wait no I won't be here next week for

mine show let's go XP when's your flight

because I get back Thursday night oh

wait I haven't been I'm certainly gonna

try then yeah I'll try to be here for

lunch oh sure I can't promise it though

cuz I might be like sick as a dog so

yeah weekly all right hi guys in Vegas

okay so you want you here for sure yeah

okay or I could do it or I could do it

from there there might even still be a

creator there that I could pull into

guest naked probably cuz I won't be

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