The AMD Gaming PC - Ryzen + Radeon 7 #Helpful Post

Hey guys, this is Austin.

You might remember this, the streaming PC

that we built last year featuring Ryzen 7 2700X.

The only issue is that, well,

it hasn't exactly seen a lot of love recently.

But lucky for us, there's just a little bit of an upgrade

courtesy of our friends over at AMD,

who are launching Radeon 7 today.

We got to take a quick look at Radeon 7 at CES,

but this is essentially

the new high-end Radeon card from AMD.

Now, really, the target here is very much

more along the lines of an RTX 2080,

and with a $700 price tag,

this certainly does not come cheap.

Okay, so not only do we have our graphics card,

but we also have, wow, this is heavy (laughing),

the GPU itself.

So do you remember back when Vega 64 came out,

they also sent us a reviewer's kit with the GPU.

However, here it's a little bit different.

So if you take a close look,

you'll see that not only do you have

the actual Radeon 7 GPU itself,

but you also have the HBM2 memory

which is on all four sides.

Personally, I just love taking a look at this kind of stuff.

So unlike Vega, this is a little bit more of a beefy cooler.

We do have three fans, and, oh yeah, look at that.

It fits pretty much perfectly.

Dude, that looks really cool!

If you put Radeon 7 side-by-side with Vega 64,

at least for the reference coolers,

they look very similar,

although of course with this guy,

we're getting the triple fan set up

and honestly what looks like

a much-beefier heatsink on the inside.

Essentially what you're getting here

is a cut-down version of their much more expensive cards,

but because it is still based on

that seven-nanometer process,

it should be a pretty decent performer.

There's only one way to find that out.

Let me guess, is there multiple ways?

But I'm just gonna test it now.

So to properly put Radeon 7 through its paces,

I've gathered its closest competitors,

not only the RTX 2080 as well as the 2080Ti,

but also that Vega 64.

At this point, I've benchmarked all the cards

inside our Ryzen system,

so now it's time to give Radeon 7 a try.

So while Time Spy runs, I have a power meter

if you can see on this,

oh, oh, okay, I can do this, I can do this.

I have a power-- (power meter button clicks)

I can't believe I actually did that.

Dude, who put the power strip,

the thing for the button for the power strip on the side?

All right, let's try Time Spy one more time.

So power consumption looks pretty decent.

We're at 382 watts versus 342 on the 2080

as well as just over 400 with Vega as well as the 2080Ti.

Not a massive difference,

but considering that it's a similar card to Vega

except with much higher clock speeds

as well as that seven-nanometer process,

you know, it could be worse.

And we've got 8647.

Ooh, that's not so hot.

So it's a little bit faster than Vega 64,

but that is significantly behind both the 2080

and especially the 2080Ti.

Gotta say, if that's really the case

and the benchmarks we try are similar to that,

I'm gonna be pretty disappointed with the Radeon 7.

All right, next up we have GTA V.

Now this is running essentially maxed out at 4K

with the exception of MSAA is set to 2X.

Let's see how it performs.

So for reference, the 2080,

which this really should be competing with,

delivered about 56 FPS here,

so that's definitely what we need to hit,

or at least get as close as possible, so.

We're not terrible, it's definitely faster than Vega,

but that's still behind the 2080 for the most part.

And our result is 48.5.

Yeah, I mean, that's better than Vega,

but it's not (chuckling), that's behind the 2080

by a pretty significant margin.

I mean, it's an improvement

over what you're getting on Vega 64,

but the issue is that this card costs $700,

the same as the RTX 2080, and so far,

you're not quite getting that level of experience.

Performance?

Now there are some advantages to Radeon 7.

So you do have double the memory.

This has 16 gigs of RAM versus eight which is on the 2080,

and for some applications, I mean,

games aren't really pushing more than 8 gigs of RAM yet,

but a lot of video editing stuff can

and 3D rendering can hit 10, 12, 13 gigs of RAM.

It's cool, too, right?

You've got the same amount of VRAM for your graphics card

as I have for entire system RAM with this guy.

So, I mean, it's cool there's stuff

that you can do with 16 gigs of RAM,

but I care much more about the actual performance.

Having a little bit of a future-proof,

I don't think that changed my mind.

Next we have Fortnite.

Again, we're running full 4K Epic settings,

pretty much everything completely maxed out here.

For reference, we were able to get

just about 60 FPS on the RTX 2080.

Look, Fortnite's hard to benchmark.

You can't get the exact same scenarios over and over again.

I want to try to at least be in the same location

and keep things as consistent as possible.

Yeah, I'll call that about 49 FPS.

It's, again, better than Vega 64,

but what we're really lacking here

is any kind of real win for the Radeon 7 yet.

It's fine, I mean, it's not bad.

We are able to play a lot of 4K games

at close to 60 FPS maxed out,

but close to 60 FPS is not the same as 60 FPS,

which is pretty much what the RTX 2080 is giving us.

So with Black Ops, we're able to run it again 4K maxed out.

The only thing I'm doing is

I'm just turning the anti-aliasing down to Medium,

but besides that, we should be good.

Now for reference, we were able to get

72 FPS on the 2080 like this,

so let's see what Radeon 7 will give us.

Also, the GPU's at 99 degrees right now?

What, no!

Whoa, whoa, whoa, we're pulling, like,

420 from the wall now.

That's, like, 70, no 40, 50 more watts

then we were pulling earlier?

Okay, if you ignore the ridiculous temperature,

Black Ops is actually taking advantage of all of our memory.

Look at that, we're at 10 gigs of RAM?

Is it gonna hit a limit at some point?

It's just going up.

It's just (chuckling),

it's just going up.

Now, I mean, I guess, the standard sort of thing applies.

This is pre-release, I don't have final drivers,

so there could be some weird bugs,

but nothing that I was reading about

said anything about (chuckling) this.

I mean, performance is actually pretty good here.

I mean, we're getting 75 to 80 frames per second.

And you know what, the VRAM actually has stabilized.

It's using about 13.5 gigs, which is ridiculous,

but you know what, if you've got 16 gigs of RAM, why not?

Yeah, you know what,

that VRAM usage actually looks accurate.

We were using about 15 gigs of RAM.

Everything makes much more sense today.

So Black Ops was actually telling the truth.

After doing a little bit of digging,

AMD has actually changed the way

they report the temperature on the new GPUs.

So as opposed to the edge temperature

which just shows, like, 70, 74 degrees,

which is still the limit,

instead it now also shows

the top temperature of the entire GPU

which is known as the junction temperature,

and that actually can run up to 110 degrees safely.

And it did confirm that, yes,

Black Ops does actually use more than 8 gigs of RAM.

Whether or not that makes a big difference to performance

is kinda hard to tell, but it did match the 2080.

So like the other games, we are running Battlefield

at 4K, DX12 enabled, and pretty much everything's on Ultra.

The main difference is that there's no ray tracing enabled

since I want to keep things fair between the Radeon

as well as the GTX cards, or the RTX cards.

So for reference, the RTX 2080 delivered about

48 FPS in Battlefield 1.

Let's see what Radeon 7 can do.

This pretty much bogs out around 50, 51 FPS,

so this is actually the first game that we've seen

the Radeon 7 do better than the RTX 2080.

All right, I call that 51.

There are some legitimately cool stuff with the Radeon 7.

The fact that it's the first seven-nanometer GPU

is interesting, but the main thing holding it back

is that it's essentially a Vega 64

that has been shrunk down, given higher core clocks

as well as more memory, but at its, well, core,

it's still pretty much the Vega

that we've had for the last couple years.

It comes close to the 2080,

but it can't quite take the win,

not unless you're really taking advantage

of more than that 8 gigs of RAM.

So I'm curious, would you want to pick up the Radeon 7

or the RTX 2080, or would you rather just not spend $700

on a graphics card?