The Next Generation
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the
outward appearance of the msi gs70 v
is
surprisingly professional giving its
gamer
roots but don't let it fool you
this
five-pound laptop is packin
hardware
that would make most desktops
blush
with a geforce r-tx 28 Emacs q a6
core
intel core i7 8750 h 32 gigs of ram
and
one terabyte of raid 0 m2 SSD
storage
every single component of this
machine
is balls to the wall which
should
mean balls to the wall
performance
but can you possibly hope to
cool
all of that stuff in a chassis this
thin
RR TX cards even worth the extra
cost
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so
here's the thing see the performance
of
a laptop with one of invidious shiny
new
r-tx laptop GPUs will vary
significantly
depending on the cooling
and
the power available so you'll always
get
the same number of CUDA and r-tx
course
but for the 2080 max-q in
particular
the base and the boost clocks
can
be all over the place laptop
manufacturers
can actually configure
this
particular card's power target to
anything
from 80 watts all the way up to
over
a hundred and fifty watts
that
means remember this is according to
Nvidia
spec that you could end up with a
base
clock of just 735 megahertz
while
a properly cooled one would be
capable
of boosting to over double that
so
what that means is that independent
reviews
of this generation of laptops
are
gonna be even more important than
ever
before
because
you cannot compare between
models
based on the spec sheet alone so
how
did msi then fare taming of the
beast
fine I guess
so
under a stress test the CPU
immediately
jumped up to a hundred
degrees
and was forced to throttle down
until
its turbo boost ran out of its
Elden
around 2.8 gigahertz sustained on
all
course which might not sound amazing
and
it's not as good as it could be but
it
still kicks out a write impressive
1205
score in Cinebench so mobile
professionals
take note but also stay
tuned
because we're gonna go further in
depth
with that in a future video
today's
focus is mostly gaming since
this
is our first look at mobile r-tx so
let's
change gears to 3d Mark's new
portroyal
tests treating our eyeballs to
some
of the first real-time trace trays
to
come out of a laptop and this also
gave
us a moment to really appreciate
the
17 inch 1080p display that nside
crammed
into what it would have
traditionally
been a 15.6 inch laptop
chassis
and I got it
save
their IPs type panel delivers some
damn
good visuals at a hundred and
forty-four
Hertz and of course with the
horsepower
to back it up really only G
sync
and factory calibration are notable
missing
features here I can't say like
just
overall the industry I love the
move
to the super slim bezel 17-inch
displays
the difference in immersion
versus
a 15.6 inch is palpable now back
to
the benchmark we got a score of about
4,000
which at face value met basically
nothing
to me since this test hasn't
been
around for very long but then upon
further
investigation it turns out that
it's
roughly 1/3 slower than a desktop
RTX
2080 with a similar cpu and that
lines
up pretty nicely with the
reduction
in clock speed with the G 75
landing
around twelve hundred megahertz
versus
1850 on the desktop card now I
could
show you guys a bunch more
benchmarks
of a desktop graphics card
expectedly
crushing a thin laptop but we
figured
it would be a lot more
interesting
to compare it to other than
in
like gaming laptops which is why the
GS
75 is going to be taking on the
gauntlet
of Zephyr is's Zephyr Zephyr I
suffer
anyway with the max Q versions of
the
gtx 1070 1080 and RTX 2080 all
represented
back in the portroyal test
the
two r-tx cards completely destroyed
their
GTX equivalents partly because the
test
won't run on those cards but but
more
interestingly the Sephiroth GX 701
pulled
out a convincing lead in both the
score
and core clock achieved likely
thanks
to its superior cooling stay
tuned
for our full review of that little
beast
even more interestingly though in
3d
marks times by benchmark the RT X
cards
absolutely wiped the floor with
their
last gen competitors turning out a
result
that is 30% faster than what
we've
ever seen in the thin laptop
before
and this kept up past the
synthetics
as well which is just great
news
for gamers the mobile RT X 2080 is
a
freaking beast max Q design or no now
the
GS 75 again wasn't quite able to
keep
up with the Zephyrus GX 701 but
generally
just by a couple of maybe
about
five FPS so MSI is leaving some
performance
on the table here
perhaps
this was in order to maintain a
more
conventional keyboard and trackpad
layout
or perhaps it was that they tuned
it
this way for acoustic reasons
now
the GS 75 isn't silent but purr in
videos
max-q guidance it's quiet enough
that
it's not gonna bother you while
gaming
and it's easily overpowered by
its
decent onboard speakers so overall
the
GS 75 games really freaking well but
what
about the whole portability thing
it
is a laptop well as much as we're
kind
of tired of saying it but MSI just
keeps
making us repeat ourselves here
the
build quality here just isn't good
enough
for a machine that costs $3,000 I
can
easily click the trackpad by pushing
the
palm rest area and you can feel the
Machine
flexing when you're picking it
up
like honestly the word we settled on
here
was flaccid they do claw back some
points
with one of the best assortments
of
IL that I've seen in quite some time
with
Thunderbolt 3 full-sized HDMI and
Ethernet
being the stars of the show
although
if you want to be a star you'll
probably
need a standalone camera as
this
one here isn't going to get too too
many
compliments on twitch but I look
like
10 years younger which is nice
that's
maybe our biggest gripe about the
GS
75 though is the trackpad it is last
hopped
which is good but the flex of the
chassis
removes any chance of it having
a
solid clicky feel and although I like
where
amis I was going with the size
using
up almost all of the available
vertical
space and giving it this extra
horizontal
width they somehow went too
far
making it really hard to type
without
ending up with a palm resting on
the
trackpad causing accidental
activations
and when I brought up these
issues
at CES and the size reply was
well
the trackpad turns off when you
plug
in a mouse and although I do expect
the
average user of the GS 75 to read
we
have a mouse plugged in it's kind of
like
dropping your dog off with a friend
when
you go on vacation and saying well
Oliver
won't in your house at all as
long
as you've gotten outside when he
needs
to so I just I never thought I'd
say
this but until MSI can get their
palm
rejection way better they should
stick
to smaller track pads now as
mentioned
above the worst part of the
keyboard
is actually still the trackpad
but
once that is disabled it's actually
pretty
good the keys have a nice long
stroke
with decent feel overall and my
only
real gripes here are about the
layout
and they're pretty small ones I
just
think that these keys up here could
have
been better used as dedicated home
and
end or media control keys with that
said
they can be remapped so removing
the
bottom of the device were greeted by
an
impressive 82 watt hour battery which
given
the power in here is not gonna be
letting
you work cordless all day but if
you
treat it nicely and you're not
running
games or heavy software it gets
you
a pretty darn solid five hours of
work
time then past the battery we've
got
access to three m2 SSD slots making
for
very easy storage expansion and RAM
that
is well it's technically upgradable
but
if you're like oh gee where are the
DIMM
slots that's the same thing we were
wondering
so our unit has both of the
sodam
slots filled already and if we did
want
to change them out we'd actually
have
to remove everything to get to the
other
side of the motherboard bring us
to
the bottom line should you buy one of
these
now you will be getting one of the
fastest
gaming laptops on the market
faster
than anything that was released
in
2018 by a fair margin and compared to
the
Sepphoris
you
get more RAM for $300 less on an
otherwise
identically Specht system but
the
zephyrus in the real world is faster
and
it has g-sync and factory panel
calibration
along with noticeably higher
build
quality also maybe I'm off base
here
but in my mind by the time you're
spending
$3,000 I feel like it's not
that
much of a stretch to go a little
bit
further test 3300 which is why I am
not
recommending
that you buy this laptop
but
instead recommending that you buy
this
laptop except for $2,300 to make
that
happen
you
do need to drop the specs of it but
there
should be more than enough cooling
for
an RT X 27 t in here 16 gigs of ram
fits
the needs of most people and at
that
price I am much more willing to let
slide
some of my gripes about the build
quality
in exchange for the overall
usability
and the great battery capacity
that
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