The World’s Largest Cyclotron #Helpful Post

in my hand right now I'm carrying what's

called a dosimeter and it's a tool for

measuring radiation why do I need a

dosimeter well although there shouldn't

be any significant radiation where we're

about to go there could be because we're

here at triumph the particle

acceleration laboratory here in British

Columbia Canada that houses the world's

largest cyclotron and soon the world's

most powerful linear electron

accelerator of its kind and what do they

do here not just casual things you know

like advancing the fields of physics

medicine material science and much much

more so without further ado let's head

inside and talk about how they

accelerate particles to about 75% of the

speed of light and also why the heck you

would want to do that in the first place

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when you think particle accelerator the

first thing that probably comes to your

mind is CERN they are famous for digging

this great big tunnel that allows them

to accelerate two beams of particles too

near the speed of light then smash those

two beams together and see what happens

well triumph is a little bit different

they are more about directing a single

beam of superfast particles at an object

like say a piece of uranium by doing

this they can achieve a couple of things

one they can create isotopes or forms

and elements and compounds that

generally don't exist naturally

fluorodeoxyglucose for example is used

for brain research in the nearby

university of british columbia or two to

actually produce elements that either

wouldn't naturally occur or that would

be very difficult to study inside the

neutron star merger you'd have to travel

to in order to find them before we get

into that though let's go all the way to

the beginning with this

rather unassuming bottle of compressed

hydrogen so the hydrogen gets sucked up

through

this tube right here all the way up to

this spot right here and then this

chamber this whole thing is kept under a

vacuum so that takes care of the pumping

then it comes down into this plasma

bucket which is right here where a 2,000

degrees Celsius tantalum filament

ignites the plasma strips the electrons

from the atoms and then the hydrogen and

ions so these are the hydrogen atoms

that pick up extra electrons are fired

out through here and like really fast

because our 12,000 volts here is not

compared to ground but rather to the

entire source room that we're inside

which is kept at 300,000 volts

compared to ground when the accelerators

running it's a good thing it's not on

now we're on the outside so directly

above me is where our hydrogen and ions

leave the source room so from this room

to the wall here are a bunch of linear

resistors so the potential then goes

smoothly from the room up to 300,000

volts at the wall and when the particles

leave here they'll be traveling at

roughly 140th the speed of light to put

that in context that's about a hundred

and sixty thousand times faster than the

top speed of my car now dealing with a

huge electric potential like this isn't

easy

while our power supply here isn't

actually working as hard as you'd think

it only uses about 1 million once

charged to maintain that potential if

given the chance it will gladly create a

literal bolt of lightning between in the

room here and the wall so to prevent

this they've had to do a couple of

things first of all this entire room is

a Faraday cage and no wires can go

between it and the wall or it'll be

spark city in here so all of the data

and the control signals are sent over

fiber optic cables which is pretty

standard but then what about power you

can't do fiber optic power well that is

where this comes in so rather than just

running a wire remember we can't do that

or balloons they ran this non-conductive

shaft with a 30 horsepower motor on the

other side of the wall that allows them

to convert mechanical energy here into

electrical energy just like a

bog-standard generator pretty clever

now we're above the particle accelerator

where are wicked fast anions are coming

shooting down this tube but we have a

problem since they don't just come out

in a nice orderly fashion like a laser

but rather tend to scatter like a

flashlight the main goal here is just

getting the particles down there which

requires some real you know particle or

wranglin and all along this line is

triumphs sort of h minus particle prod

of choice basically they're precision

manufactured electrostatic plates called

quadruples that act kind of like lenses

for the charged particles to keep them

in line and

same technique gets used right here

where the particle beam actually gets

turned before being sent one floor down

into the real need of the particle

accelerator the 520 mega electron volt

cyclotron the largest in the world so

before we go inside there's a few things

that we've got to do any contamination

on the surfaces inside the cyclotron

will need to be cleaned after we leave

so they've asked us to wear lab coats so

we don't shed any unnecessary dust and

also to wear booties and not like kneel

down on the floor or anything like that

just to create as little extra work as

possible for all the texts that keep

this place running smoothly this is a

very high technology contamination

control barrier here I like it okay now

we are getting into where the magic

happens the cyclotron that sorry getting

a nasty look here sorry not magic

science magic isn't real sciences anyway

at this point our h- particles are

entering the circular track at 140th the

speed of light where large RF resonators

provide the acceleration and massive

deionized water cooled coils of aluminum

hold the particle on orbit now there are

two coils both with 15 turns positioned

around the cyclotron and each one

carries 18,000 amps but that incredible

power doesn't mean that the researchers

here don't also have a fair degree of

control over the speed of our particles

so as they whip around the loop the h-

particles will go faster and faster

it actually takes about 16 a hundred

laps before they'll reach full speed

that's about 3/4 of the speed of light

but what they'll also do is a kind of

spiral outward taking a wider path

around the accelerator kind of like how

in your car if you're going faster it's

hard to take a tight

turn that means that when it's time to

apply the last step using a thin piece

of carbon foil to strip the electrons

off so that we're left with just bare

protons the energy of our protons can be

fine-tuned according to where the carbon

is positioned on the inside of the

cyclotron gives us slower lower energy

particles or write out that the edge of

the cyclotron gives us the full 520 mega

electron volt experience once the

electrons are stripped our coils will no

longer keep the stream going around the

track so we're left with a straight

stream of positively charged particles

that'll turn whatever pore sample is on

the other side into matter soup of

course you can't have those particles

smashing into anything unintentionally

like air so the entire cyclotron needs

to be held at a vacuum of point zero

zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero

one bar to accomplish this they use

sounds so cool turbo molecular pumps

that's been at 40,000 rpm basically like

smacking the air molecules out and not

allowing them back in now this does

create the small problem of making the

vacuum chamber which is above us want to

collapse in on itself however to combat

that we're actually currently below the

cyclotron do you see all these poles

here well you might actually think that

these are these are supporting the

cyclotron like struts or something but

they're actually pulling down really

hard to make sure the whole thing

doesn't just flatten itself so that was

pretty sweet but just like you guys will

occasionally get the itch to upgrade a

graphics card even if you don't really

need to but you just want the latest and

greatest well after 45 years of

operation he

eventually the thrill of shooting

protons at 3/4 the speed of light around

the cyclotron started to wear off a

little and the researchers at triumph

needed a new way to snack stuff together

at super high speeds and continue to

push the frontiers of understanding so

they built the world's most powerful

electron linear accelerator or ela knack

so when it reaches full power in 2025

the ELA knack here will be able to

propel a hundred kilowatts of electrons

at a blistering 99.99% the speed of life

Wow so to accomplish this they first

need yet another three hundred kilovolts

our supply in a Faraday cage of it what

is it with these guys in their three

hundred thousand volt power supplies in

Faraday cages like a nice nice round

number or something anyway that gives

the electrons a pretty nice kick in the

butt too roughly 77% the speed of light

but that's that's just too slow that's

like peasant stuff where they really

start cooking are in these radio

frequency wave chambers so the insides

of these are cooled down to just 2

Kelvin using liquid helium surrounded by

a liquid nitrogen cooled heat shield I

guess that's why they call it the super

thermos and in there the electrons are

accelerated by the radio frequency field

in here oscillating rapidly 1.3 billion

times per second with these oscillations

synchronized to the speed of the

electron going through it so what that

means effectively is that the electron

is always being pushed along to the next

segment kind of like a railgun now one

of these accelerators would get our

electrons up to 10 mega electron volts

but that wasn't enough for them so they

got three three in a row gives it a

total of 30 mega electron volts of

particle smashing power so all in all

this accelerator consumes 1 million

watts watts or about enough power for a

thousand homes all right so we've had a

lot of talks so far about particles

going out of seeing speeds but now it's

time to transfer all that momentum into

something useful now depending on the

experiments what happens next can vary a

lot but normally it consists of getting

the beam to a point where it smashes

into samples of materials called targets

where the particles have enough energy

to split the nucleus of the atoms this

can create all kinds of fun things

neutrons muons or rare isotopes via

nuclear fission or spallation and it

also creates a big old pile of matter

garbage so at risk of sounding like a

broken record here this is where things

get tricky because you might not have a

lot of time to grab the important bits

some of the rare isotopes that they want

to study might only last for a few

milliseconds before decaying so

nanomaterials are designed and brought

to temperatures white-hot around 2,000

degrees Celsius to release the isotopes

superfast then depending on what exactly

is smacked together some of the longer

lived isotopes might get collected

locally while other particles would need

to go through several switching stations

some of which are below us here or for

further acceleration to arrive at an

experimental detector the one behind me

here called the titan ion trap

accurately measures and isotopes mass

using its cyclotron frequency so

basically there's a combination of

magnetic and electrical fields that trap

the particle in a confined space and

then you can calculate how fast the

particle moves around a track and from

there calculate its mass alternately

your isotope might get switched off of

the main line over there and end up in

something like Griffin which is kind of

like a microscope that's

looking for nuclei so Griffin is

actually the world's most powerful tool

for the decay spectroscopy of rare

isotopes and it provides triumphs

scientists with an unparalleled view of

the interplay of forces that create

nuclear structure here on the other side

the isotope atoms are delivered into the

black ball that it was showing when we

were here for B roll so we could show it

to you but I can't point it now and then

they're deposited on a tape reel and as

they decay gamma rays are emitted and

then are measured by these detectors

that go completely around the sample

giving a full 360 degrees of detection

after the measurement is performed the

tape reel gets spun some of which have

decayed into daughter nuclei that create

unwanted gamma ray background noise come

out through the lead wall on the other

side which shields the detectors from

the daughters more isotopes can then be

deposited on the tape and it's good for

another go these isotopes are used to

help us understand fundamental physics

but there are also lots of other

applications isotopes created here at

triumph have been used for things like

tracking the movement of plankton

detecting brain disease or cancer

treating cancer characterizing candidate

materials for superconductors

understanding how metal ions make

proteins and enzymes in our body do what

they do and you know what honestly if I

liver to list at all in this video we'd

go on for another 10 or 20 minutes but

but this light is I'm sure you've been

screaming at the screen for the last 10

minutes or so when are you getting to

the cool computer's okay okay now so

behind these doors is a Tier one data

center that analyzes experiment data

from the Atlas particle detector at the

Large Hadron Collider it has a 100

gigabit fiber pipe capacity that

connects to the LHC over at CERN in

Switzerland and other sites around the

world so that they can share the

ridiculous amount of computing and

storage needed to analyze and

store the massive amounts of data that

Atlas produces so in there they've got

12,500 CPU cores 12 petabytes of disk

storage and 31 petabytes of tave storage

oh it that is does open but I'm haha I

thought it was gonna be locked

unfortunately we're not actually allowed

to go in there something-something

currently holding the record for tier

one computing uptime something something

me getting close to it I don't know I

don't really know I don't really know

what the issue was so this was really

cool and it's the end of our tour but

it's hardly the end for the work being

done here at triumph they're actually

expanding like crazy

along with ramping up the ELA knack

they're gonna be tripling their rare

isotope production capabilities in the

next couple of years adding another

building and continuing to employ around

a hundred co-op students every year to

teach them about particle acceleration

so maybe then we'll have to come back

when they've got another big update to

show us maybe we can get behind those

data center doors next time yeah but in

the meantime I just want to give a huge

shout out to Stu for coordinating our

tour and to the Legion of experts that

showed us around it was a lot of fun to

get to spend a day with who are probably

some of the smartest people here in

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vit doesn't matter okay so this is a

video that I've actually been excited to

make for quite some time it must have

been at least like three months ago or

something like this that that we came

across let's see if I can find it here

yeah there it is we came across this the

can you get over here right yeah cool

are you good the PC water cooling rate

240 millimeter cooler pump reservoir CPU

block rigid Pipes d.i.y so this is a sub

$80.00 full custom water cooling kit

from one of those like Chinese retailers

in this case banggood.com now in the

time since I excitedly ordered this

thing we have actually explored whether

all-in-one liquid coolers are actually a

better option than air coolers and what

we found was that compared to a very

high quality air cooler like one from

say Noctua and AIO liquid cooler in

every case that we measured actually was

more expensive while not providing the

same level of performance actually a

lesser amount of performance however one

of the things that we acknowledged in

that video was that full custom water

cooling loops were a little bit

different so the goal today is to find

out whether a cheap full custom water

cooling loop is still worth the extra

effort even if it actually doesn't cost

any more than a high quality air cooler

or a cheap AIO

so it comes packed a little something

like this and we're gonna we're gonna

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also there's another thing we have to do

hop hop on over here you guys you know

Jake if we were really smart we would

have taken a mirrored output from this

bench and then you could have switched

to a screen capture that would have been

quite smart indeed but we didn't do that

so Brendan just gets to film it so we're

keeping this really simple basically

this has only been sitting on here for

man maybe five minutes or something like

that so our CPU temp so we're just gonna

sit about the thirty degrees range

that's that's what we'd expected idle so

we're gonna go ahead and we're going to

run our test stress test for five

minutes now okay if we were doing this

as a pre-recorded video we would run

this stress test for probably closer to

about twenty minutes because the thing

about liquid coolers is that because

water can absorb so much thermal energy

before its temperature actually raises

what you're supposed to do is you're

supposed to wait until it reaches what's

called an equilibrium point where the

amount of thermal energy that it's

absorbing is equal to the amount that's

being dissipated by the fans on the

radiator so the way that you would

typically do that is you'd wait for the

water to warm up such that the

difference between the temperature of

the water and the temperature of the

surrounding air is so great that the

thermal transfer from the fans is more

efficient and it matches the thermal

transfer of the CPU block into the water

loop that's how we would want to do it

unfortunately we're doing this live you

know we can probably get away with like

a ten minute test let's do a ten minute

test we're doing this live so what we're

kind of stuck with here is a timed time

to challenge so our idle temperatures

were thirty we're gonna run this for ten

minutes

and we're gonna see where we end up on

our CPU just so you guys know we are

presenting both of these coolers with

kind of a worst-case scenario here so

this is a core I 917

Exe now I didn't do any overclocking or

anything like that but wait a minute is

this only getting why is this only

getting 83% utilization

what the devil is going on here that's

weird

does the FPU what you know that

shouldn't normally hit a hundred percent

ah 120 watts only ya know this this

really does not sound right oh man

okay ho ho boy now we get to do some

live live troubleshooting and stuff oh

man I didn't bother to plug this into

network because I didn't think I was

gonna need it I've had all the utilities

that I wanted I'm just gonna I don't

even know if I have network card drivers

on here because this is just like a

Rando bench that I grabbed and through a

boot drive on oh man oh man yeah we

simply will not be able to make do with

eighty-five percent utilization there

that's not that's not good enough okay

so in the meantime we need to kill this

test so that it can get back down to

about 30 degrees which actually

shouldn't take it that long and then

dang it okay there's some good news at

least one of my onboard network

controllers does have a driver installed

so we just need to wait for that to pick

up and then we can grab another stress

test oh yeah I want to allow that cool

okay so at least I'm not gonna be using

sneakernet to grab Network drivers off

of my my work computer there alright um

yo Anthony I de for some reason was only

giving me 85% CPU usage the other

suggested alternative I was gonna grab

prime95

okay yeah sure I know prime95 is not

cool anymore but like whatever no

settings I just said it to some to

stress F to you nothing else I know no I

don't really get it

what's that no I have not tried turning

it off and turning it back on

thank you Jake I don't have the turbo

boost max technology driver installed

but that shouldn't really matter no I'm

not gonna stress about it we're just

gonna grab the windows 64-bit thing here

maybe I should do some super chats in

the meantime all right where's my laptop

no here it is alright that download come

on baby don't have a lot of time to wait

here people are waiting I don't know how

many people are waiting because I don't

have the chat open because I am super

prepared for my stream like that but I'm

sure at least three people are watching

right now at least I know it's more than

that Jake a couple thousand all right

all right you know what you're adding

pressure right now

you're not actually making this easier

no I have not tried turning it off and

turning it back on yet is that is that a

super chat or something like is that why

your thank you Jake thank you for your

input I appreciate it

no I have not started I have not tried

relaunching the software okay tell you

what

I will reboot I can't even download this

file I'm just clicking this link and

it's just not downloading come on Oh

technology you're so awesome

meanwhile my Chrome browser window here

is just black it's not responding sorry

excuse me

lordy come on let's go

I swear it's like sometimes I feel magic

like magic like you know my family will

call me it would be like well it's not

working and I'll sit down I'll like

touch it and it just like works

perfectly and I'm like okay like magic

fingers and then like the other 90% of

the time I feel like something's working

perfectly and all I have to do is walk

into the same room as it and it breaks

the new creator studio for a YouTube if

anyone was wondering it's abominable it

doesn't even have a live streaming tab

in it yet and they're telling us that

what is this BIOS is updating LED

firmware that is a that is a low

priority right now very low priority

what was I even talking about right

right right yeah they told us at the

creator summit that they are rolling the

new creator studio out to everyone this

year and I'm kind of looking at it going

you guys have already had this in beta

for about eight months and based on the

progress you've made so far another

eight months so I'm really worried

because there's a ton of functions that

just do not work all right check

Colton's Twitter the business team has a

machete yes I I am actually aware of

Colton's machete he walked up behind me

when I was in the bathroom doing my hair

I do do my hair just cuz I don't do a

good job doesn't mean I don't try and

he's like holding this thing behind me

he's like hey check out what John Doe

got me and I'm like I can't quite see

cuz I have my arms up like this and he's

right behind me I'm like machete like

yeah why you have a machete at work I

thought maybe it was my day it wasn't it

was all good

and now we are not getting an internet

connection why why do you hate me why do

you hate me

why are no Wi-Fi networks found I know

there are Wi-Fi networks I will disable

the network connection and I will

re-enable it yes I am familiar with that

particular troubleshooting step Jakob

Andrew says ready for the not live

conspiracy theories yeah me too they're

hilarious trust me guys if we were pre

recording this this is not how it would

go down okay so there's good news my

prime95 download is working so we're

just gonna pop into our downloads folder

hope that there's nothing incriminating

in there and extract this bad boy to a

desktop folder and then hopefully we're

gonna see a hundred percent CPU usage

now and also hopefully where's this

folder I just created there it is

hopefully we're also going to be back

down to about 30 degrees so that we know

we're at sort of a good baseline

starting point temperature because if we

don't start at our idle temperature then

our load temperature won't necessarily

be representative all right let's open

this puppy up

I just stress testing it's all good

thirty-six torture test threads smallest

FFT why don't we just do small FFT let's

do that we're a die to go come on baby

no no

and computer sensors all right cool

so our CPU is at Oh balls

wait what CPU is at forty degrees well

that's weird

doing something in the background now

that seems a little hot I mean I guess

it is an eighteen court oh great

it's we're looking at about 8% twelve

ten percent utilization in the

background what is even what are even

happening right now

SVC host yeah okay so this was why I

didn't really want to plug in the

internet because I think it's just doing

Windows modules installer junk Microsoft

content updates that kind of thing in

the background I really wish there was

just like a clean okay

well all we can do now is go forward so

we're gonna start our small FFT test and

then we're just gonna have to wait we're

gonna have to wait for it to reach our

saturation point so here we go Wow

I don't think I've ever watched prime95

lunch that many workers before I haven't

used it in a long time

alright you have got to be kidding me

why is it at 85% utilization okay I

rebooted it Jake it shouldn't be set to

low power mode and that shouldn't affect

it yeah I will check but I sincerely

doubt it additional power settings here

we go no we're on balanced yeah I don't

know that there is a high performance on

desktop it's certainly not that oh there

we go

okay whatever balance should be fine it

shouldn't matter processor power

management

okay assistant maximum processor state

is a hundred percent why no no it's set

two hundred percent already it's fine

you don't have to do that

no I didn't unbalance it's set to a

hundred percent just it's fine

there's nothing there's nothing wrong

with that okay well alright I guess we

just don't really have much of a choice

here I don't know I don't know what it's

doing two different stress tests are

like yep eighty-seven percent that's all

you get the good news is that CPU

package power consumption is actually

pretty consistent at around 140 to 145

hundred and fifty watts so as long as

it's running the same it doesn't really

matter so I guess we are just gonna roll

with it let's go ahead and unbox our

banggood.com water cooling kit this is

the kind of thing that you just cannot

predict will go wrong do you want me to

lower this at Oh Brandon or is it all

good don't lower it Oh should I put it

back I will put it back alright cool so

I actually don't know what's in these

unmarked boxes I can take some guesses

this is probably a reservoir that's

weird it looks like it comes with three

fans even though it's a dual radiator

why don't we start with that start with

the most obvious thing so any water

cooling kits all in one or or custom is

going to come with some a few

fundamental parts one is our radiator so

this is what allows you to take the

thermal energy that it's absorbed by the

water from your CPU and dissipate it to

the surrounding air because that's right

folks at the end of the day

fundamentally everything is air cooling

unless it's phase change cooling in

which case eventually it's air cooling

now something I'm

sort of curious about is what materials

this radiator is made of so you can see

we've got a pretty dense thin

arrangement here so this will probably

perform its best with sort of more

pressure optimized fans like higher

speed fans and there's a couple other

noteworthy things about this design so

one is that unlike a lot of higher-end

radiators these days one of the fluid

tubes is actually right under these

these fan screw holes so this was a bit

of a design flaw of older radiators and

it was quite common for people to

accidentally screw their fans in too

tight and puncture the tubes with that

said what they've done to combat that is

they put a really large gap in here so

it would actually be kind of hard to

bung that up so I'm not going to take

off a ton of marks here what I would

take a ton of marks off for is if this

thing is not made of brass brass or

copper and you're just gonna resort to

just using a flashlight to look in here

and oh that's rough ya know so you guys

aren't gonna get a great look at this I

don't think can you get right down the

barrel of that thing probably not

Brandon right can you see it without my

phone getting in the way right can you

pull it off the point is there's no

there's no copper colour in there

there's no brass colour this is clearly

an aluminum radiator I was pretty sure

just picking it up like it's super crazy

light but yeah so at the very least what

I would recommend if you have an

aluminum radiator and if we have any

copper components in here is using some

kind of anti corrosive additive and I

shouldn't have really used the word

recommend because I don't recommend that

that's a bad idea

mixing metals is a super super rotten

time and you shouldn't do it sorry

alright so there you go there's our

radiator mounting hardware

next up oh wow so I guess I'm making an

assumption here that these are actually

real but if they are then hey it ships

with deep cool fans

and wow these actually might even be LED

fans so this thing should look pretty

cool if nothing else I was expecting

like no name yet loon fans or something

like that but no this seems to be

surprisingly decent really quiet I'm

actually not sure though if that

particular header on the motherboard is

being speed controlled right now and I

have no molex harnesses plugged into

this motherboard right now so I can't I

can't double check that but I was

allowing Corsair to use their own

management we were just gonna kind of

see how loud it gets for better or for

worse anyway so there you go it'll be an

apples to apples comparison or it'll be

a comparison anyway alright let's see

what's in our next box actually let's do

this one first cuz yeah I'm pretty sure

it's another one there you go this one's

the same box as the fans but seems to

have something else inside oh okay so

this seems to be kind of an oddball size

of tubing it doesn't look like quarter

inch tubing it looks a little bit bigger

but it's certainly not 3/8 I think I

borrowed a tape measure from James the

other day hey James ah hey James stride

hey Alex can you throw something at

James cool thank you

you know I thought you were gonna

actually throw it that's gonna be like

well Brandon at least make sure you

catch this up can I borrow your tape

measure you don't have it anymore oh he

put it away alright yeah I actually

don't care that much anyway so we got

about 6 feet of tubing that should be

enough for our purposes today

here's where things I think are gonna

get really interesting here is our block

so we've actually had some pretty good

experiences with just like cheap blocks

off these Chinese marketplace sites

before oh whoa sorry just to finish that

thought so I'm expecting that these

might actually perform reasonably

decently one concern that I had

immediately is that they are copper

blocks so while it's a lot better to

have the copper be you know downstream

of the aluminum radiator than what Swift

tech did with the Apogee GTX way back in

the day where they had a copper base

with an aluminum block like right

physically attached to it this is still

not a recommended configuration so yeah

what's interesting here though is that

they've got a CPU block so that's where

you got your your fittings sticking at

the top like this but they've also

included a GPU block so these used to be

all the rage back I don't know 10 12

years ago before full cover blocks got I

wouldn't say more affordable because

they didn't people just started

accepting that if you wanted to water

cool your graphics card you needed a

full cover block because because video

cards got so many other components on

them over that sort of few years in

there that needed cooling aside from the

GPU that by the time you bottle actually

this is great I have examples of them so

by the time you bought a whole whack of

Swift tech mc4 teens like little heat

sinks or to cover your ram modules or MC

21s so these are little heat sinks to to

cool your VRMs by the time you did all

of this and then you still needed to

point a fan at it you were spending a

bunch of additional money and you

weren't getting one of the key benefits

of water cooling which is quiet you're

trying to eliminate fans not not add

them so people kind of abandon these you

still can you

them but just note that you'd probably

want to get like a little bracket or

something to point a fan like a pretty

strong one probably not something as as

quiet as this directly your GPU to make

sure that you're getting out of cook

cooling and I'd also recommend some

little heat sinks so we're not going to

install this today also partly because

it wouldn't then be an apples-to-apples

comparison against our a IO which does

not have a GPU in the loop so in terms

of the construction here it's pretty

pretty straightforward you've got a

standard sort of thickness copper base

comes with a pre applied protective

cover it's hard to evaluate flatness

like this I would go ahead and say that

it's not incredibly flat though so if

you can see any distortion in the

reflection of something off of it that's

where you'll you'll see if it has any

kind of bowing to it with that said

again about ten years ago it became

standard practice to slightly bow out

the center of the block so once you

tighten it down it actually flattens

onto a flat IHS but I really I doubt

they've put that much consideration into

this pen again maybe I'm just not giving

them enough credit mounting hardware

wise here's some thermal compound we're

not gonna use this we're good

wait what oh okay no there is some in

there is this a paper package for it

though wow I've never seen that before

oh we're not gonna use that we're gonna

use the same thermal pad that we're

using for the other cooler just for for

the sake of fairness I would say though

that that's going to be an advantage for

the Corsair cooler because I sincerely

doubt that this stuff performs as well

as the probably Tier one thermal paste

that of course there would be using pre

applied to their coolers alright so

there's our cpu block and mount this is

a very rudimentary mounting system this

might take me a little while what else

we got here this way is a fair bit this

has got to be the pump

and it is this is another thing that I

would consider to be a likely advantage

for the Corsairs of the world this pump

is is is off-brand

even for a Chinese pump like it doesn't

have like you know chang hong

electronics on here

I think Chang Hong actually makes TVs

but don't worry about that minor details

like it has no markings on it whatsoever

just a molex lead with some basics

leaving on it sticking out of the back

and then they've gone ahead and they've

put a plexi top on it so it looks like

whoever's making this kit is just

sourcing these like these pumps and then

they've they've gone ahead like I wonder

if it's the same it'd be hard to tell

just looking at the acrylic yeah you

wouldn't really be able to tell anything

from that but I'd have no reason to

believe that this is made in a different

place either so they've both got the

same kind of markings around the outside

here kind of like streaky hard to say

very hard to say all right last part

hopefully this is as fun for you guys as

it is for me I'm actually having a blast

right now so this as I predicted is our

reservoir so for those just tuning in

what's remarkable about this kit is that

it's just $80 so that's actually cheaper

then the dual 120 millimeter AIO liquid

cooler that i have back here and price

competitive with something like a

high-end air cooler from Noctua except

that it is for better or for worse fully

custom water cooling now this is where a

surprising amount of the cost of water

cooling actually is in the fittings and

as fittings go as fittings go these are

actually like pretty nice so they're g1

quarter standard standard threading

they've got recessed o-rings so you

can't accidentally over tighten them

they've got there they've got a hex

portion to them here so you can tighten

them with a ring

if you want and they are nickel coated

or nickel-plated both on the outside and

the inside like this is actually these

are these are decent fittings I was half

expecting them to be made of aluminum

because the radiator was made of

aluminum but uh but they're not also

curious is that they appear to have

included more of them than we actually

need oh right because I'm not installing

the GPU so no I don't believe I do

actually have extras now this I don't

really get so that's a plug for our

reservoir right there and then this one

right here I have yet to determine the

purpose of also included these have kind

of gone out of fashion but they are

effective

I forget what these are called but these

are an older style of tubing clamp right

there what are these called again

can't remember primo chill did some of

really nice ones way back in the day

that was before they did those

disastrous plastic fittings oh the last

thing included in the kit TBT funnel

look at that

that's a Linus hand for scale come on be

kidding me all right so this is where my

plug goes actually oh I hadn't really

talked about the reservoir so this is

probably I would say the most standout a

well constructed piece of this entire

kit this is crystal-clear spring clamp

thank you

it's crystal clear these are nice like

feel like really nice rubber o-rings

compared to the ones on the fittings

that are kind of ear more your more

basic they're not as they're not as

squishy not as malleable like these are

really nice it threads in and out like

just really well the machine markings

are really minor compared to the rest of

the stuff like this is this is actually

a perfectly nice rate reservoir the one

deficiency in its construction here is

that it doesn't have like a proper

baffled

prevent air from being recirculated in

the loop but that said it's tall enough

that it shouldn't be a huge issue and it

does at least have this little piece of

tubing right here that will bring the

bubbles up away from the from the outlet

here so we'll we'll do our best with it

it should be okay but it is not ideal so

I'm gonna start fitting things up this

really is the main drawback of custom

water cooling especially once you get

the price the same that it's more work

to build it up so Oh are we ready

actually come on over here Brendan are

we ready to get our results from our i/o

yet this has been running for oh shoot

it doesn't tell me how long it's been

running for because oh man

okay how am I gonna figure this out what

do these lines denote are they like 15

second lines

we'll find out okay they're like seven

second lines oh crap

actually know what we're getting pretty

close yeah we have mostly reached

equilibrium here anyway so you can

really see this we're clearly

approaching an asymptote so if we were

to say 53 54 degrees I don't think

anyone's going to begrudge us that

anyway we've got a little bit more time

because I've got some boat set that's 17

minutes and I've been talking for that

long holy smokes I just talk and talk

and talk don't I Luke was right I was

one of his mean things that he said

about me in the roast is that I just

never shut up I was like well alright

fair enough

ah I think Oh Oh what okay I'm having a

hard time figuring out what their plan

was for the fittings here so this needs

to go here ooh that does not thread in

nicely let's try a different one see if

that's any better they do they did not

do a great job of tapping these threads

and I would know a not great job of

tapping threads I'm something of an

expert uh

oh shoot yeah you can actually see

there's a real screw up there well I was

saving this for for later to talk about

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pop this open I can use this one of

their pokey tools so I'm gonna see if I

can kind of get that excess junk out of

there with a spudger and if that clears

it up a bit so you can see that now

right can you see the extra bit there I

need to do this upside down so that if

it falls it falls out all right

let's see if cleaning up that thread

helped No

let's try the other one no these are

just hey Jake can I ask a favor can you

grab a wrench yeah I think I'm gonna

need to wrench this in aa pliers pliers

would not be ideal now I would really

like a wrench just one of the adjustable

ones is fine so you can see here my

o-ring is making contact but just barely

so this is already a reason that I would

suggest for most people if you're going

to do a custom loop going with high

quality components from known

manufacturers like your swift tags and

ek s and alpha cools of the world

because you are far less likely to find

a random issue like this where it just

frankly wasn't Q seed like I am NOT only

running up against kind of rough

threading here I feel like I'm bottoming

out which don't tune out now but could

be a showstopper for us just crank it

but then we might crack the plexi on the

top so in the meantime while we wait for

Jake we can go ahead and mount our fans

to our radiator here so I'm gonna go

with exactly the same configuration that

I did for the Corsair rad thank you Jack

ooh

I appreciate that wrench all right let's

do our best here I will be gentle I'm

always gentle Jake I'm like a gentle

giant except I'm not a giant so that

should tell you how gentle I am going

with that oh man these are yeah like I'm

clearly bottoming out but I did manage

to get about another third of a turn out

of them and it seems like I've got okay

contact there should we bring in our our

engineering consultant hey Alex come

give me your expert opinion over here

here do you think this is gonna leak no

what do you mean nope no no the fittings

like yeah like around the o-rings do

those look sufficiently mush to you

here's a not installed one for context

should we have the shot to hell handy

when we're testing all right thank you

yeah I guess if that's if that's the

goal then I guess mission accomplished

um well I don't think that's really the

problem I think it's actually the

machining that they did for this this

like expansion thing here we might

actually even be right up against the

copper fence how thick is no okay that's

weird we're up against something I

couldn't yeah we could run it out

through there I couldn't wait oh yeah

don't worry don't worry about it all

right carry carry on whatever you were

doing so something important just tell

me it's important it's okay okay he was

trying to who's trying to think of

whether it was under embargo or not a

lot of the stuff we do like we we feel

like oh yeah we should do like a tweet

about this and then we look at it more

like oh yeah no we're not allowed to

talk about that until the NDA is up it's

frustrating because we'd love to just

tell you guys about stuff as soon as it

comes across our desks but it's just not

always that simple because you break

enough embargoes and companies stop

sending you stuff now to be clear no one

we work with has like consequences for a

negative review or anything like that

it's just that an embargo has a clear

and appreciable and demonstrably damage

that it does to a company if you break

it because like it might give their

competitors insight into their

product launch that they can then use to

counteract it so like you know someone

could make the argument that us breaking

the embargo on pricing for something you

know cost them hundreds of thousands of

dollars and sales or something like that

so you gotta be really careful around

that type of stuff all right so there's

a radiator and I think we're actually

pretty much ready right here check this

out we've settled in so our room

temperature right now is 23 degrees

Celsius I know because I set it to that

right before we started and we've

settled in at 52 degrees running at 2.25

gigahertz this seems to be like a power

throttling thing of some sort I think

that's what's going on I think there

must be some kind of bio setting or

something anyway if we change nothing

then at least we have a fixed load and

we ended up with 53 degrees Celsius so

we can go ahead and shut down our system

and we can start installing our weirdo

banggood.com one so this I still don't

really understand if I was to use this

on the pump and then maybe hook it

straight into the reservoir like maybe

that was the idea behind it but then the

funny thing about that is now if you

look at this so I've got all my fittings

installed Here I am now one fitting

short if I actually did want to use the

GPU or if I didn't use this weird

connector one then I am too fitting

short and I just didn't get fittings for

my GPU so I think they might have bugged

this up in more ways than one anyway

these threaded in just fine so this is

all good let's go ahead and tighten

these on just in case what I say for at

43 degrees right

take 43 degrees right for the temps

53 thank you thank you now 44 you didn't

seem right

alright let's head over to the other

side of the table here and let's get

this thing installed why is this thing

still on

I turned you off now it's off alright

awesome

I'm expecting this to be a bit of a

process I don't remember the last time I

live-streamed building a water cooling

loop from scratch but if I've ever done

that before it probably wasn't a great

time so I'm gonna go as quickly as I can

here to make sure that I'm valuing your

guys's time but I also don't want to end

up with a leak on my hands or more

importantly on my motherboards so I'm

gonna try and also be somewhat careful

so first things first you come on over

here Brent and I'll come around this

side of the table so you can get a

pretty decent look at what we're doing

so first things first we're gonna go

ahead and mount our CPU block now

Corsair one of the things that they do

so well like these AIO kits absolutely

have a value is they have a really good

mounting mechanisms just for simple nuts

here especially on LGA 2066 and whatever

the other one is bloody pins does this

socket have this 2066 right are we still

on 2066 pins 79 80 XC heck yeah alright

my brain hasn't completely fallen apart

yeah that's good so just so you guys

know I'm using one of these IC thermal

pads so this was less about that they're

the best performance in the world

because they're not quite there just our

clothes and more about that I wanted

easily reproducible results so I didn't

want a slate I only get one shot at this

because we're doing it live so I didn't

want a slight smear in the compound or

something like that to affect our

results all right so we're gonna talk

the way our Corsair radiator so in terms

of noise level Corsair does such a good

job of managing thermals and noise so it

was 53 degrees and it was sort of a low

there's a low hum this one I'm actually

expecting to be pretty similar just

based on what I saw from plugging in the

fans so I'm happy about that because I

think in terms of noise level it's gonna

be pretty comparable with that said I

don't think the performance of these

fans is going to be anywhere near

Corsairs so this is their H 100 I Pro so

it comes with their maglev fans which

are just spectacular fans the last I'm

not gonna say forever but they will last

a very long time because the bearing

doesn't even make any contact it's

pretty pretty sick technology only

problem is this cost like twice as much

so these might be kind of flimsy ER

things but there's a pretty low bar in

terms of how they have to perform in

order to do better and this block who

knows might have an advantage so come on

in here Brandon we're gonna go ahead and

oh wow did not think of this uh-oh so

this block has the whole alignment for

LGA 2066

so you can see it's got a big enough

plate which is good that means we're not

completely sunk yet but it doesn't have

the mounting adaptor that you need to

screw into the built-in mount for LGA

2066

it's a bolt through so no I'm not going

to so we're gonna have to improvise a

little here now I do have an idea if

these screws happen to be threaded the

same as the motherboard mount maybe we

can put them in from the top maybe

that's their intent maybe if they'd

included a manual I would know these

things for sure

power supply jumper no it's fine I'm

good we're going we're going full Yolo

Jake this there's no there's no yeah I

got paper towel yeah don't worry okay

not quite full Yolo okay so good news

yes these screws do thread in so you can

see that they go in but you can see

we've got a lot of extra space here and

I don't know if the included Springs are

quite enough Martha Sean I guess so

we're gonna go ahead and load this up

with a plastic washer a spring and

another plastic washer I don't think

that's gonna be enough I put that in yep

that's clearly pretty loose now the

thing is some of these motherboards oh I

don't know at least some of them oh okay

now we're getting into pretty risky

territory here some of these

motherboards actually have like just a

plastic thing in between and you can you

can poke like a through-hole mount

through it without damaging the PCB of

the motherboard but the thing is I don't

really have a way to find out without

just trying it so I guess that's what

we're going to do oh yeah so you can

actually hopefully see here there's

actually a hole in the PCB and it's just

like a plastic stopper there so if we

just kind of jam this in here it's

possible that we'll be able to bolt it

through from the bottom oh oh oh heck

yeah I really wish I had a drill right

now cuz this is gonna take a little

while but I think we're in

all right so stupid so we're gonna go

ahead and throw a plastic washer on here

that's really important because we don't

want the metal head of the screw to be

right up against the back of the PCB of

your motherboard here and we're gonna go

ahead and screw this puppy in yes I will

reposition my thermal pad

let's Jake I'm not the one who forgot to

take off a protective cover yesterday

hey if you guys follow us on twitter

that was Jake who forgot to take the

cover off the bottom of a CPU lock you

know what though I can't give him too

much heat about it though because four

years four years I could say with a

straight face I've never done that in

all my years of building computers I

have never forgotten to take the

protective cover off the bottom of the

heat sink or a CPU block and then I

don't remember when it was exactly

that's been about a year ago I like

finally did it and I didn't even realize

it until I was like taking the system

apart because it wasn't a system that I

was using for thermal benchmarks or

anything like that

and it was a relatively low power one

like was LGA 1150 something and it was a

really good cooler so it actually was

like good enough that the CPU wasn't

thermal throttling or anything it just

obviously wasn't running as cool as it

could have if I didn't have a piece of

plastic in between the I think it was a

water block in between the block and

what's that yeah you figured it out

right away all right well good for you

I mean you were doing thermal testing on

the system it's actually a really cool

system that he's working on shoot I'm

letting myself get distracted here and

I'm making mistakes this is how these

things happen you know when you're

trying to film a video I forgot to put

my plastic washer on this one and as I

said before that would be an

extraordinarily bad time now there's

actually a good chance that would be

fine but I'm not going to roll that die

today die being the key word

as long as there's no traces actually

right around there then all you're doing

is you're just mashing some like you

know copper and fiberglass jump together

like it doesn't really matter but if

there is a trace nearby and you short it

or you crack it then your board probably

won't work unless it's like a portal or

something and even then it might not

work or it might have like really weird

behavior that it takes two years to

figure out oh that was the problem all

along I guess I should have broken my

stuff okay well I did not anticipate how

long this would take my bad everyone oh

I guess I could read some super chats if

they were over here hey Jake can I can I

trouble you to retrieve for me my laptop

could you put it right there on the

keyboard and maybe I could read super

chats while I do this

cool okay all the ones I'm looking at

now are just dollar amounts so Thank You

wolf star and 1984 lab rat and I can't

really read this very well and and see a

crag or whatever that is drew still

plays would you recommend the rads alone

from bang good I would recommend any

radiator that is not made of aluminum

honestly I mean the thing with radiators

is that the best way to get better

performance out of a water cooling loop

okay and this is Jamo just my opinion

because there are definitely

characteristics of radiators that make

one perform better than another one but

the best way to get more performance out

of radiators my perspective is to add

more of them some of them will have

lower pressure drop so you can put more

things in a loop and without

compromising your flow rate some of them

will perform better with particular fans

or with other fans but to me radiators

have kind of always been kind of like

splitting hairs and if you really want

more performance out of your loop just

throw another one in get a bigger Tower

throw in another red the one thing I

would watch out for is to make sure that

they're not made of aluminum I

never recommend an aluminum radiator

it's there's no benefit you only save

like a few bucks compared to a a brass

radiator and for what for the risk of

corrosion for the risk of potentially

destroying your whole loop like I don't

think it's an unreasonable additional

cost to spend a little bit more on your

rad in the first place

shoot there was something I was gonna

say right I just want to be I just want

to be very clear though sorry it takes

actually a fair bit of pressure on the

bottom here to punch through these

stupid plastic things I'm not saying

that you can't have any aluminum in your

radiator I'm just saying that it can't

be anywhere that contacts the water so a

lot of radiators use aluminum for the

little fins that go in between the water

tubes that's fine aluminum's dissipative

characteristics are actually excellent

so using aluminum air is just fine and

dandy it's just the rest of it needs to

be brass which is similar enough to

copper that you don't end up with a ton

of galvanic corrosion or it needs to be

copper copper radiators are actually

quite rare the most common material is a

brass core with or like brass end tanks

with aluminum fins alright so a couple

false starts there on these through-hole

mounting screws but we are finally in

and hopefully this melts alright okay on

the bench there we are

alright it's stuck um you you've got to

be kidding me

laughs there we go okay this was kind of

jamming it in there all right so we're

gonna reposition our thermal pad here

can you see that okay Brennen you want

me to lower this table okay cool I'm

gonna throw that on there

and theoretically this is now as simple

as throwing one of our washers here now

we don't actually don't technically need

this washer here it's actually for the

other side of the board where you put

the nut but hey it's on there now so I

guess we'll protect our hold-down plate

from getting scratched that's the only

possible benefit of what I'm doing right

now

it will also actually increase the

mounting tension a little bit but

probably not an appreciable amount wait

are these not screwing on wait what is

it oh that's this one oh I was like I

took these nuts off these bolts how is

this not going on not fair not fair PC

gods

the PC gods they are a harsh and cruel

mistress

all right so I'm gonna go down until I

don't know the thumb nut is kind of a

little lower than flush with the the

bullet there all right we're gonna call

that on there pretty good

now we just need to plumb up the rest of

our loop hey Jake could I get a pair of

scissors sorry I really did intend to

prepare for this stream but you know me

thank you

have you ever took an ax look taking a

look at the master air gee 100 M it

looks like an arc reactor from Ironman I

have it and I get great temps honestly

we kind of did away with with case

reviews a little while back just because

before sorry I know I have water wait

where'd it go I filled up my orange

water bottle well if you don't mind

finding my orange water bottle that

would be swell I don't think it's in

here it might be over by the sink over

there I was just gonna use tap water

because like realistically I'm not

leaving this set up for

where was I going yeah we kind of did

away with case reviews a while back just

because there wasn't a whole there's not

a whole lot you can do to eliminate

variables on a case in terms of testing

its performance like you can try but

you're always going to end up with like

you know what's the right answer do you

fill every fan slot or do you run every

case with the same number of fans you

know how do you make concessions in some

cases for you know more X more out for

like ones that are designed for compact

builds versus ones that are designed for

bigger ones do you hold them all to the

same standard and just report the temps

and and the acoustics how do you measure

the acoustics of a case like there were

a lot of questions that we could just

never find good answers for and if

you're just going to evaluate the

aesthetics and the ease of building in

them honestly I kind of found the video

we did recently which was kind of a live

stream like this one of just building in

a case I found that was probably the

best way for me to tackle it but that

won't include kind of detailed thermal

analysis or anything like that it's just

a quick build okay this is not working I

cannot get this over the barbed ow I

wish I had pliers right now sucks like

digging into my fingers yes yes I know

you're supposed to use pliers I was

hoping to do with my hands because I

don't have pliers I give up we're just

gonna roll without them no I'm good

I mean honestly that's enough of a bulge

I'm not concerned that it'll leak to be

clear I would never install it long-term

like this because it will leak

eventually these these tubing's tend to

kind of stiffen up over time and when

they're kind of held like this that

becomes their new home and then they can

easily kind of stretch a little bit a

little bit more or the water can can

slip past them but when they're still in

there kind of fresh tight state like

this and you stretch them over something

and so they're not really a concern I'm

far more worried about this o-ring here

alright so that's on there there's our

rad now we just need our reservoir which

does actually have a mount

that comes with this thing but we're not

gonna bother with that we're just gonna

maybe can I pull it no okay um I was

actually kind of hoping to just find

something that I could strap it to oh oh

yes this is a perfect opportunity to

plug the LTTE cable tie get a close up

there Brennen LTTE logo LTT store comm

we've got that there we've also got the

Linus tech tips water bottle our next

shipment is coming I think in 2 or 3

weeks something like that really excited

for those those have been an absolute

smash hit like we don't actually sell a

ton of merch I'm not saying our audience

is a bunch of cheapskates I'm just

saying that they say that on YouTube you

tend to connect with people who are kind

of like you that's sort of the value of

YouTube and I'm a big cheapskate

we don't sell a lot of merch I'll say

this I'll say that much but the water

bottle has been just a smash hit because

it looks really cool it's got like

functionality that matters it's you know

vacuum-sealed long that kind of cool

stuff yeah so I'm excited to get more of

those oh man trust me this is a high

quality cable type that's not actually

the issue I just didn't have it tight

enough there we go my yeah I did I did

thank you okay so there's my res let's

go ahead and cut a little bit of tubing

to go between our our pump and our

reservoir here just like a little little

baby one like that Shoop oh that was not

a clean cut that's bad especially

because I'm not putting clamps on this I

don't want to leave any danglies like

that so I'm just gonna do a better job

one key when you're cutting tubing if

you don't have a proper tubing cutters

to roll it as you're cutting it that we

actually do get a pretty clean cut yay

Linus Pro soft water cooling tips no one

cares about those anymore because it's

all about hardline now but whatever all

right now where do I need to go next so

I'm gonna go out - sure let's go - here

in the notes there easy peasy

just so you guys know I'm not going to

the radiator first because

I believe that the going to the radiator

first affects the CPU temps in some

meaningful way actually had a bit of a

debate with fusty from gamers Nexus

about whether the loop order matters he

was like oh should we go to the CPU

first or the GPU first which one are we

trying to overclock harder and I was

like what are you talking about and he

was like yeah the loop order matters and

and I was like I really don't think so

and I was like look do I need to make a

video proving you wrong and he's like

bring it on be my guest so I'm actually

kind of considering making a video about

whether loop order matters now that I've

said this though he's probably gonna go

ahead and make the video we'll see we'll

see we'll see maybe he won't maybe he

won't love Steve

love Steve we had a really good time

when he was up here for the roast did a

couple videos together go check out his

channel it's gamers Nexus he did a

couple videos while he was here one kind

of profiling us and how we make our

videos what was what was the other one

he did Jake do you remember what the

other one was the what sorry yeah oh

yeah he did a tour of our office that

actually includes some information that

had never never been seen before we lost

in that up there in his drops minute

there we go okay so I just need another

one more tubing right here this is oh

this is kind of an awkward tubing run

anyway I love Steve but water cooling is

something I do actually know a fair bit

about and so I was kind of thinking

maybe I'll maybe I'll make that video

but maybe I'll be wrong so maybe I just

shouldn't make the video no we should

make it regardless because I'd want to

know if I was wrong this is the

stupidest funnel I think I have ever

seen in my life

look at this it's not even that much

bigger like it doesn't increase the size

of the target much at all I'm still I'm

gonna use it I'm gonna use it because I

paid for it but I'm not gonna like it

I need to grab a molex molex cable here

oh wow it's almost like I planned that

and no no I didn't yeah you're not gonna

see this

I can barely see what I'm doing here I'm

just gonna have to do it by feel boom

he's that good folks okay well good luck

everybody

let's get some paper towel it's just

speed let's be proactive you know I

don't want to be reactive reactive is so

1995 proactive not amateur active you

know pro right there pull that move

right there I just really don't want to

lose this board so rampage six extreme

or whatever the heck it is really

expensive board and Gary from Asus is a

really nice guy but if I break another

board and I'm like hey Gary actually

it's not even me who breaks most of the

boards around here to be very clear but

if we break another board name a board

he'll send it but I know he'll be like

he'll be making comments you know

comments you like those guys okay now in

fairness most of the boards break

because we're doing things that

shouldn't be done so you guys don't have

to this is not gonna work like look at

look at this Pinner little this is just

stupid okay it actually works

surprisingly well

Jake because I'm using the funnel

because I paid for it he asked why I

don't just take the top off the res did

you pay for this funnel didn't think so

so you don't have to use it but I did

I actually am totally going to keep that

funnel because I used to have a little

metal funnel that I kept in here that

was really handy whenever you're like

desperate and it's better than nothing

and I lost it and so yeah I'm gonna I'm

gonna put it in my little bag of tricks

here all right

ah so that's it we're ready for our

power cycle now let's go ahead and throw

our graphics card back on here I am

really hoping for the best here I would

hate for you guys to have invested like

half an hour into this video or however

long sorry we've been in streaming for

an hour wait what what time is it it's

too okay well I would hate for you guys

to have invested two hours and also me

having invested two hours only to find

out that it doesn't work a one-hour

whatever who's keeping track okay

clearly not me oh you okay oh yes

yes thank you okay um well come on come

on in Brandon if it blows up you don't

want to miss it right you don't want to

get the camera wet you're not gonna get

the camera wet geez hey okay all right

now we're gonna do another round of

filling now one thing that sort of blows

is that this round of testing will

inherently take longer because of our

reservoir there's far more water in our

loop this time so it will take longer to

reach equilibrium so I'm gonna have to

figure out how to stall you guys for at

least 20 minutes while we wait for it to

warm up you know what we should have

done Oh Jake you know what we should

have done we should have warmed up the

water

so we wouldn't have to wait so long oh

I've already mostly filled it okay

put hot water and the rest of this if

you don't mind Jake I want hot water in

the rest of that container like empty it

and then put in the hottest water you

can it's fine

no it's a fine idea don't worry it just

means we'll reach equilibrium faster

that's all dang it that's not gonna be a

lot of hot water

I like this reservoir actually does a

reasonable job of not sucking up too

many of the big bubbles

once it kind of settles in it'll be

better to and this pumps not bad

definitely noticeably louder than the

one included with Corsairs kit but it

also moves the water pretty pretty well

so we can't quite evaluate it until we

put it for one thing it's a vibration

deadening pad under it and for another

until we wait for the bubbles to work

their way out of the loop this solution

is going to be louder though stop James

you want that phone I'm gonna have to

change the pin for you or actually here

just enroll a fingerprint a pin would be

easier alright okay one moment please

all right yeah I'm live stream do you

mind actually pointing away because I

don't want anyone was like a real pin

yeah point at James you ever point at

the computer alright let seems like a

pretty good idea hey you are sir

Boop oh wow that actually quieted right

down once it stopped sucking up so many

bubbles now it still does have a bit of

an like here if I get my mic right next

to it you have got to be kidding me

thank you Dave yeah that would be really

unfortunate because this would

SuperDuper be for nothing

all of it we'd have to like we'd have to

redo the video like just do it as a

standard upload sorry guys lol okay that

made no difference whatsoever I

shouldn't have bothered with that better

well so bad just

yeah but 20 this Microsoft this is what

you do this is what you cause 20,000

people are waiting for you right now

twenty thousand a hundred I'm already

gone cuz they're like no I wanna deal

with this that's what you do

let's have a look at some brijesh send a

thousand ringgit i don't know how much

that is says love from India Thank You

brijesh no idea what a thousand ringgit

is but I appreciate it

Joshua Smith Pat Jen Corelli drupe FPV

Kenny says Sweden sends its love to

Anthony Anthony Sweden sends its love

courtesy of Kenny Ronald says just

ordered a lynx level four from digital

storm cool story xanthus says isn't

jake's testbench set up for water

cooling ah not for a while I don't think

it is right now okay wait what's going

on here hold on a minute what's going on

is this doing things right now oh yes oh

wow it's leaking pretty good oh man okay

okay so yeah it actually bottoms out and

you can see here we've got we've got

water pooled around the the bottom of

the fittings it's actually only this one

right here this one seems to have held

up so this is a high-risk maneuver but

to say that run and see there I'm gonna

grab the wrench and I'm gonna see if we

can give her just a a little more here

so I'm gonna pull this red key out first

okay let's give her a little more

arrghh okay

okay where's my paper towel weird my

paper towel at so I'm just gonna take

this kind of soaked one here and top up

the rest of it I'm gonna throw this new

one in here what could go wrong that is

a serious design flaw every once in a

while you encounter a product and you go

did anyone ever try this before putting

it in a box and shipping it to a

customer and I don't mean this

particular unit the one I'm holding

right now I mean this product the Antec

dark flea DF 85 was a great example of

that it had these just astonishingly

stupid like modular hard drive cages

that basically got in the way of any

modern high end GPU at the time and then

it had these just incredibly dumb like

brackets that sat in front of the five

and a quarter inch optical base that

just served no purpose at all so because

they were just like kind of a bar you

could press the button on your on your

DVD Drive and it would like try to open

and it would jam up against the thing

but there was no mechanism for it to

automatically open so they were just you

could still see your optical drives so

they didn't stealth them they were just

in the way and there was no clean way to

remove them other than just like

breaking them off and leaving like a nub

in there like it was just just an

incredibly terrible case I was right

around the time that an tech went from

the king of PC cases to basically

irrelevant over a span of like a few

years yeah yeah all right cool we're

back up we are not leaking anymore that

was a terrible solution though and we're

gonna go ahead and fire up our prime95

here so first we can take a look at our

idle temps although it should be noted

that these aren't that representative

necessarily because the Corsair cooler

had been running for

about five to eight minutes before we

fired up the camera okay so we're

sitting at 33 degrees oh well that

doesn't that doesn't really bode well

okay I mean this is what the same

thermal compound so if it doesn't manage

to yeah Wow yeah there you go 33 34

degrees okay slow it degrees oh all

right well we can really do is hit it

now small FFT boom there it goes

show me that 86 huh thank goodness oh

I've never been so happy to see a weird

issue not fixed 86 87 % CPU utilization

so for better for worse our test is

running the same as it did last time now

Jake where'd we settle in 53 degrees all

right so I should probably read some

super chats while we wait to see if if

our banggood.com full-custom water will

actually no I'm gonna do a quick recap

for you guys so what we've got on the

bench now is our $80.00 water cooling

kit from banggood.com because as we

mentioned in our recent video about AIO

water coolers versus high-end air

coolers and AIO might cost more look

cooler but it doesn't necessarily

deliver better performance or quieter

operation compared to a really good air

cooler what we acknowledged in that

video however is that fully custom water

cooling will outperform either of those

if it's implemented correctly so today's

objective was to find out if a cheap

custom water cooling kit like this $80

one from banggood.com qualifies as fully

custom water cooling or if it just plain

doesn't cut the mustard we're getting

pretty close to our conclusion guys ooh

this is gonna be a bit of a shocker but

I'm gonna go ahead and just go through a

couple of these have you tried removing

the C Drive thanks Eric

no I haven't smokey says I bet you have

casual Friday enabled

no I always look like this biking with

panda looks like it scratches at level

one with deeper grooves at level two if

you know what I'm saying

I know what you're saying I Castillo

says what do you guys do with all the

extra tech lying around do you ever

resell it or donate it to schools

believe it or not we hold on to the vast

majority of it because you never know

when you're gonna need to compare this

year's high-end graphics card against to

last year's high-end graphics card like

if we'd thrown away all of our 10 Series

GPUs then when Anthony was trying to do

his piece that's coming really soon on

running r-tx

on 10 Series we like might not have had

one handy with that said we are looking

to purge some stuff over the next little

bit we're trying to figure out how the

accounting works for us to dump it on

the ltte store so stay tuned for that we

might do that hey over here says FAQ you

Linus I read it

smokey be 42 so subtly threatened it put

a broken case on the desk I don't know

what you're talking about

Aleksey t says by the amount of

technical problems you'd think it's a

land show thank you for the 200 rubles

I'll put that towards improving these

bye cliff Candice does love this video

idea the first five times you made it

I'm sure this one will be just I have

not done this exact video before

Aliexpress water cooling did I do that

you did that that was different though

we bought all the custom parts this is a

kit it's totally different I mean it's

just random parts with no instructions

so someone else bought random parts and

sold it to us

apparently the name on float plane is

wrong did you fix that at any point all

right I think it's a little late why is

this guy hosting Anthony tech tip says

Alex Lee all right thank you ladies and

gentlemen I think we have a conclusion

so that worked out pretty well where we

didn't have to actually wait the whole

20-30 minutes come on in come on come on

down Brandon Lee so here's our power

consumption right there and the 140

150 watt range just as we were expecting

same as last time and this is not good

it's at 62 degrees already we've only

been up for about five minutes

the worst part and this is very Oh oops

one moment please whoops um whoops okay

look we all make mistakes especially

when we're live-streaming

let's go ahead and okay well that was

definitely a demonstration of you know

how water can absorb heat if I was

really clever I would have been like aha

I did it on purpose remember how I

wanted to heat up the water so that we

would reach equilibrium faster you know

what I like that story I'm gonna stick

with that yeah I know I totally forgot

okay so these fans are on now so that's

good yes they're blue let's go make sure

we've got all the air bladder out of

this as well while we're at it

ooh that radiator is a hot boy whoa wow

these fans really do not move a lot of

air huh well that's really unfortunate

because I'd say if this had better fans

on it it would definitely be it would

definitely be a closer contender anyway

we're gonna we're gonna see how it how

it turns out here but I wouldn't be

surprised based on how little air these

are moving if we actually don't end up

cooling off that much the good news is

we have time to read a few more Super

chats from you kind folks where'd they

go ah

dr. Mobius says J's two cents already

did a loop order video improved it

doesn't matter yes in fact I might have

done one at one point I don't know you

make 4000 videos eventually you forget a

couple of them but there are ways that

we could demonstrate it scientifically

that I'm sure Steve would appreciate and

I don't know how Jay did it but if he

just did it by like plumbing up a CPU

and a GPU then plumbing up a GPU and a

CPU the thermal sensors that he's

working with are just simply not

accurate enough to prove beyond a shadow

of a doubt that it makes no difference

phonics says hello from cube coders tell

John oh and Anthony we say hi we're

happy to be working with you guys I

actually didn't know we were working

with them and I don't know who they are

but I guess I will soon uh wild card

says a live stream a trip to Home

Hardware for pliers no the IRL category

has enough nonsense live streams at this

point we don't need to go to Home

Hardware for pliers chaco the scholar

says who benefits the most from liquid

cooling intel or AMD like so many intel

versus AMD questions the answer is just

not that simple and afraid both AMD and

Intel have products that will benefit

more from water cooling and have

products that will benefit less from

water cooling something like a rise in

526 hundred probably doesn't benefit

from water cooling pretty much at all

you throw a decent air cooler on that

thing and you're gonna overclock it as

far as it'll go anyway

Zen architectures overclocking is

limited not by thermals in most cases

but rather just by hard architectural

limits it only clocks so high so Intel

also has CPUs like for example a Core i5

they'd finally launched their 9 Series

non-case cues but anything any way

anything that's a non case cue if you

can't overclock it as long as it's not

running at like 100 degrees all the time

because you installed it in a Mac it's

not gonna it's not going to have any

benefit because the CPU only goes faster

when the clock speed goes faster

but then again Intel an AMD also both

have processors that definitely benefit

from water cooling something like 32

core thread Ripper or Intel's 28 core

Xeon w those are both going to benefit

from water cooling even if not to go

faster definitely just to run quieter

Rahl Rahl asks why do I hate Star Trek I

don't hate Star Trek did I did I ever

indicate in some way I hate Star Trek

Jake and I wasn't a Star Trek kid I was

a Star Wars kid so the only thing that

really ever made me mad about Star Trek

was people being like oh cool you

watching Star Trek and be like no it's

not Star Trek because Star Wars is not

the same to Star Trek but that's it I

don't like hate Star Trek or anything

I mean I'd probably have some unpopular

positive views of Star Trek I really

liked the reboot I know a lot of people

didn't but I did

so there you go reboot movies okay in my

book I never watched Discovery I was I'm

a lot older than you I was a next

generation kid oh I haven't I don't know

I don't have time to watch TV shows I've

been busy playing actually I've been

I've been busy playing like the best

game that I've probably played in years

lately if you like retro RPGs so if you

were like No so they I mean they

obviously localized it for Japan but no

it was I believe it was a Western team

working on it cross-code fantastic if

you loved a games like Chrono Trigger

Final Fantasy 6 Final Fantasy 7 Secret

of Mana that series it's like it's like

a retro kind of snaps generation sprite

based RPG real-time combat very

challenging combat challenging puzzles

if you don't adjust the difficulty I

didn't I was like determined to beat the

stupid thing on the regular difficulty

so it's got like these timed puzzles so

you have to go through and do everything

like perfectly as things that anyway I'm

not gonna spoil anything about it but I

mean really it's like I'd always kind of

had it in the back of my mind that if I

just if I ever had just like way too

much money and no

idea what to do with it I wanted to like

resurrect that style of RPG where it's

really not about the graphics it's not

about the cinematic cutscenes there's no

voice acting purely text-based just

great musical score and a fantastic a

gripping story and cross-code did an

absolutely fantastic job of it I finally

finished it last night and I put like

it's like 60 hours into it so for how

much that game costs I think it's like

$15 or something like that on Steam I

don't remember how much I paid it was

probably less because I got it on like

the Halloween sale or something but 20

bucks for 20 bucks it's fantastic you

should just get it absolutely loved the

combat system it never got boring

if I had to criticize one thing about it

I would say some of the dungeons dragged

on a little bit and there's one point

where you you you go to a place and

you're kind of like I'm not really gonna

have to do two of those dungeons in a

row am i and then you do without like

any story connective tissue in between

them really so I think they could have

paced it a little bit better but other

than that I just thought it was

absolutely fantastic 10 of 10 in my book

best game I've played a long time if I'm

being honest with myself if I don't

allow myself to look through my

nostalgia glasses it's probably better

than Final Fantasy 6 but I would have to

replay 6 in order to say that

definitively I don't know the characters

are just some of them in particular just

fantastic absolutely lovable anyway the

good news is I think we're done here

so it's not as dramatic a loss but our

banggood.com water cooling kit is

officially worse than an AI ohh

now to be clear this is an excellent AI

oh but of course there has ones that are

a lot less expensive that would also be

like more price competitive and would

easily be performance competitive with

this this doesn't like

absolutely trounced their other a iOS

it's not like a 10 degree difference or

anything like that and this is 4 degrees

more so what that leaves us with is that

this is custom water cooling but at a

performance level that is just not

better than high-end air or a decent AIO

liquid cooler also it comes with some

additional risks you've got a no-name

pump you've got a block that was not

tapped correctly for the threads that

were included in the box and you've got

an aluminum radiator which like I said

having it physically away from the

copper CPU block is a lot better than

having them right next to each other but

does pose entirely unnecessary risks in

the long term so thank you very much

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change the fans for the MLS you guys

know I have other stuff to do today

right

Brandon are you able to do it cuz if

you're done we can be done you sure I

know I'm sorry Brent you guys know

Brandon is dying right like Brandon is

an absolute super trooper he has here

you guys look this is what you're doing

to him

right now you guys look like it's fine

but you better thank him that's all I'm

saying

this is what he's equipped with right

now that's what you're making him hold

for two hours two hours look at him look

at his face look at his eyes you can't

you can't see it you can't see it it

doesn't matter it doesn't matter he's

suffering that's my point

I'm sorry Brandon I promise to never do

this to you again except if it

accidently happens like this all right

we're going quick here I'll go as fast

as I possibly can because we really do

have other videos to shoot today it's

2:20 why am I doing this clearly lost my

mind this is what this is what happens

this is the will of the people this is

how much we care okay Linus Media Group

you guys want to know what's the

variable here if I was willing to spend

another $60 on fans because those ml's

the holes are not cheap would this

perform better I don't know but I will

soon so what have we settle in it 56 57

okay

so I'm not gonna stick around for the

final result because I think it's gonna

be a very small difference but I will

stick around to see what direction we

move in all right

agreed everybody cool with that are they

cool with that Jake I can't monitor the

chat right now I'm busy doing this fan

swap I wait for the stream delay cool

cool all right we got this okay

Brent's so everyone in chat thank you

yes Brendan does rock and know his pain

is not your joy Brandon is a good person

and he doesn't deserve pain I should buy

Brendan lunch you know what I'll tell

you what I I will I'm gonna I'm gonna

spend the next super chat on Brandon's

lunch it doesn't actually work that way

it will have to be money out of my own

pocket technically because I don't

really there's one for two bucks and one

for five euros well okay there you go

there you go Brandon ten bucks okay ten

bucks towards your lunch today

Brandon doesn't like mucho way to not

way to not know your coworkers Jake

wow what a millennial that's probably

why he never goes for lunch with you

Jake because you took him to Chipotle

everyone knows Brandon doesn't like

Chipotle Brandon never shuts up about

not liking Chipotle the second anyone

mentions to pollies like I don't like to

pull away I don't want to pull a

Chipotle is awesome

fully eight ten out of ten endorsed to

pull a no Brendon only gets ten bucks

now they're just throwing it away lunch

only cost so much there you go ten

dollars for Brandon okay tell you what

no no cuz ten dollars isn't really

enough there you go okay fifteen dollars

for Brandon stop dipping Brandon cuz I'm

not giving him anymore it's not really

the way this works like I can't I

there's there's no tax write-off on this

like hey that's post tax money I'll

explain it to you guys when you're older

but expensing things in a business is

really important all right so these are

running they're running off the same

headers as the whatever whatever these

are the deep cool fans that we had

before and we're going to give this a

minute

there's definitely there's definitely

or airflow coming through particularly

out here around the edges I think we're

getting a bit of a better seal with

these because these deep cool ones have

an even dumber round frame design no I'm

it doesn't work that way okay guys it

doesn't work that way yeah so here's the

thing guys I do not expect this to make

like an enormous difference yeah it's

not immediately dropping like this is

not a night and day difference and by

the time you go when you spend this kind

of money on new fans for your

banggood.com loop you might have you

might as well have just gotten a better

block a better pump better radiator and

put crappy fans on it like that's where

you're getting most of the additional

performance better rad better block so

no sorry guys didn't work peace out

see you again on the next Friday stream

yes you can just leave me sitting here

awkwardly or you can kill the stream