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a bunch of great topics for you guys

today including the big controversy

where YouTube is deem monetizing

channels over the comments that other

users post under their videos more on

this at 11:00 I love it I'm so happy I'm

just it's so great there's also Samsung

Galaxy fold yeah I want to spend

considerably more than I spent on my

first car on a phone there's Apple 2019

leaks and more yeah there we go

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actually had our really cool week we did

some really neat videos this week I'd

love to tell you about them but I no

longer you know what let's talk about

this first I no longer do the win show

on my daily driver laptop

yeah because some of you may or may not

have noticed this but over the last few

weeks there have been a couple of land

shows that mysteriously went missing and

they they were either just not uploaded

immediately after we broadcast or they

were they were live for a short period

of time and then and then gone what's

weird is YouTube just glitched it so no

great that makes sense wait that doesn't

actually make sense no that doesn't make

sense

did our site YouTube froze for a second

let me just I have actually note this

computer is probably long overdue for a

reboot if nothing else so I don't know

well it seems fine now anyway a couple

of wine shows disappeared and the reason

for that was not contrary to some fairly

aluminum foil hat type speculations

things

yeah lammed that down because that was

not it nothing to do with Fox no nothing

to do with Google Google did not pull

down the land show um and nothing to do

with me trying to suppress information

that I had said on the land show about

like the whole Content ID claim thing

that went on nothing like that what

actually happened was there was some

personal information of mine that was

leaked in one of them and then there was

some personal information of some of our

staff that was leaked in another one so

in order to ensure that I don't have

spreadsheets or banging that works super

well open on my laptop I have gotten a

different one however it's not a perfect

fix because actually one of those times

I was already using this one but I was

signed in to Chrome which like which

carries a lot of personal information

with it

things are hard okay yeah um I never

claimed to be some kind of tech guru

they put me on that pedestal no you did

no I didn't you named the channel I your

names in it in tech tips I didn't name

the channel actually those are boss

that's my defense we didn't exactly

fight against it though I'm sure I named

the NCIX channel which I hosted yes tech

tips so I met I am partially responsible

man yeah so what was I talking about

I don't you attend with your laptop but

I brought entirely sure why IIIi don't

remember why I actually had died I have

no oh oh oh oh LTX okay remember I told

you there was an update yeah okay so

Colton because he is a small small man

physically has has like he's just look

he's power tripping right now he's power

Trinity okay he has put a gag order on

me he's put a gag order on me he said

that I can't tell people how many LTX

tickets have sold already

oh so we did a stream a few

hours ago announcing that LTX tickets

are on sale

I wish the stream had been on time

because by the time we did the stream

VIP tickets had been sold out for over

an hour

I had comments of people telling me that

they tried to buy them but by the time

they got through the capture they were

gone and they had like BOTS watching the

site that's what I was saying like

previously I was like I think that like

a price might be a little too low

because like people are gonna grab them

too fast but then you feel bad if you

put it too high I totally understand do

you know how much of an asshole

I already feel like charging people

hundreds of dollars to come hang with me

in the team like that feels

inappropriate no I know but the only way

for us to slow down the velocity of

those tickets would be to charge like

two three grand for them yeah but it's

like but then that's that's ridiculous

the same yeah and then you're you're

making it so a lot of the people that

should probably be the ones that are

there exactly I'm not able to get this

there's no way to make everyone happy

unless I set aside like three months

yeah and do you want to know not even

like legitly wouldn't be enough time so

I can give you guys so I can't tell you

how many tickets have sold but what I

can do

reappears on them I can I can write it

on my dock here and then Luke can react

to the number is it I can't

I can't even compare it all no you can't

because compared to people I know people

know how many tickets we've sold in

previous years yeah and like they would

be able to do that how many are there

available maximum so it's a little fuzzy

it will depend on the final layout

because the fire marshal is going to

look at the layout and say in spruce

here's how many you're allowed to have

but the absolute maximum of that space

assuming we put nothing in it is six

thousand go buy your tickets yeah yeah

that's crazy

I wonder like I'm sure part of its

Dreamhack but I wonder if it's a pretty

significant amount it's just the tone

cuz like this year's gonna be way

different all the office tours are sold

so the entire prior Friday I'm taking

groups if I think it's twenty or twenty

five on tours every I think it's half an

hour or forty minutes

and so that's however many I think

that's like ten tours all of those are

gone Jaden and we'll cuz you'll be here

by then you guys got to be in office

that day so flip Lincoln like a show up

yeah flow plane has to like flex hard

right yeah I'm allowed to make sure

people Joe McCoy wasn't short gain what

no he wasn't

well he wasn't tall he wasn't short hold

on a minute here he was super he was not

yeah he was not short those a fabricated

thing anyway five foot seven he's like I

need to tell her than me but that's back

then yeah that's true okay yeah

apparently yes I know the number

oh so that's pretty sick I don't I can't

I want to give comparatives but I can't

you just say

we did we can say that you weren't gonna

let me say that okay all right so in the

last in the last okay here's here's what

I'll say in the first two hours we sold

more tickets than we did last year all

together and it's not like it stopped

dead after two hours that should give

you some idea yeah so yeah I'm so stoked

I am like so excited it is going to be

just like and that the crazy thing is

even if we were to sell every ticket

that we could it's still borderline

whether we would even break even yeah

yeah but like if the idea was let's have

a crazy get-together of like tech

enthusiasts and tech creators and have

like a giant two-day just like fun event

then well if more people show up then

that's cool I'm really excited that's

really cool that legitimizes a lot of it

your first day of ticket sales like I

know being a buyer you're like ah

whatever I kind of want to buy last

minute so I can make sure I do my hotel

whatever whatever like my mom needs me

to help her move something and I can go

do that that day instead yeah but as a

ticket as the person selling the tickets

you want to sell them all really quickly

because then you know that there's a lot

of demand and then you can scale up next

year and all that kind of stuff so it's

nice that you buy tickets now also if

you want to go apparently

you might have to buy them now people

are saying maybe AMD can sponsor more

space no actually you're done I checked

in with Colton even like a couple weeks

ago because I've seen how much hype

there is about the event this year and I

was like hey so Convention Center do

they have more space he's like no look

you could stop asking me there we have

like the whole like okay if we were

doing this again next year we want to

scale up in that same building yes there

is okay yes

like if we

ich LTX 2019 the next day were like yo

Vancouver Convention Center

same bat-time same bat-channel next year

we need double the space like they've

got it okay they have multiple buildings

even yeah so we're just in like cuz it's

cool to be able to scale in the same

building for a while I think we're in

like three ballrooms of one building

right now it's like a massive space but

like there's room that's legit is really

close we could go for it very cool on

the topic of things exciting I'm excited

to have something controversial as a

headline even though I personally hmm

don't necessarily think this is a huge

deal I think it's great okay

so it's wonderful I'm reloading on the

forum posted fantastic basically what's

happening right now is use your comments

on your video could get your video

demonetised so a report from Wired on

Wednesday claimed that videos of okay

children in their underwear or showing

their exposed buttocks and genitals are

racking up millions of views on YouTube

with the site displaying advertising for

major cosmetics and car brands alongside

the content now to be clear and you know

it's such a weird thing to talk about

like I take pictures of my kids where

their butts showing all your size stuff

on the wall at my parents house of me

I've seen this yeah and it's Lord in

normal if it's not perverse yeah like

like I like I like I bathe these

children like it to me there's nothing

there's nothing sexual about it they're

just my kids being a cute little kids

that's sometimes they happen to be naked

and they're adorable

and so with that said I don't I don't

upload them you don't share them yeah so

my photo back

solution is one on a private server that

I own it's actually something I didn't

realize when I first set up a plex

server is how great it is for photo

library backup because not only can I

check out my photos but I can see my

wife's and before you ask yes

to a thing yes anyway it's important yep

um and Plex is quite great so it's kind

of amazing I'm down with that

anyway so so the thing is the people

uploading this content might just be

uploading haha a funny video of when the

dog like pulled on juniors pants and his

butt was showing but there's comments

under scenes of these videos where

exposed things can be seen like we're

like where a child does the splits like

in a say a gymnastics video for example

or lifts up their top showing their

nipples

um the moment ice that appears your

family dollars like pedophiles who are

documenting these timestamps for each

other to find Wow and then effectively

create what they've effectively created

is like a softcore child pornography

like loop or ring yeah so right back to

the part about how these videos are

monetized in some cases by big brands

now obviously if I'm pampers I don't

think there's anything particularly

inappropriate about the buttocks of a

baby no it's literally my job to make

things that go against them and keep

them dry and velvety soft or whatever

yeah right and pampers was just an

arbitrary example I actually have no

idea who even which multi-national

conglomerate owns the pampers brand I

just hypothetical example no idea but

when all of a sudden it's being twisted

and deformed into something that is

being whether it was intended for it or

not used

pedophile wank material all of us well

no seriously like do I want my brand on

it

No so on Wednesday YouTube announced

that it had banned more than 400

channels and disabled comments on tens

of millions of videos so some of the

demonetised videos are from perfectly

innocent creators so source for here is

here we go let's go ahead and pull this

up

Jessica Bollinger my five-year-old son

does div gnostics is a happy sweet

confident boy YouTube's not advertiser

friendly I find the timing of this very

disheartening for the YouTube community

and apparently a lot of people agree

YouTube's posted an updated Labadie

bloobity blah blah blah um so when I

preface this I said that I didn't think

it was that big of a deal do you want to

go first or should I explain that

probably quite controversial stance no

you can go for it okay I could I have

stuff to say but you can go for it if

you want okay so one I fully understand

why brands would be hypersensitive to

being associated with anything that is

not just illegal but disgusting like

pedophilia and in the outrage culture of

today for them to imagine that their

brand appearing next to this with those

comments under it might turn off some

people or spark just widespread fear er

is not necessarily unreasonable I posted

a tweet earlier this week of me holding

up an accessory for the Xbox I believe

it's called the accessible controller

nothing super cool so we're actually

working on a review which is why we have

it oh so anyway I I held up a picture

poking fun at this accessory because

they reused

molding from the Nintendo nunchuck and I

went good job Microsoft you invented the

Wii Nunchuk because it's got like a

giant Xbox logo and stuff people were so

mad they were like how dare you make fun

of disabled gamers what and I went what

are you talking about

I'm making fun of them reusing plastic

molding it's a cost-saving measure like

it was a purely purely technical joke

not look you gotta figure out who the

real enemy is here so that's that's yeah

that's what is the problem yes you got

to figure out who's on your side okay so

this comes back to oh man I'm gonna

attend it now so this comes back to the

whole tampons versus pads controversy

with the Amazon goes to our video I shot

an intro of that video where the actual

joke is that you're a moron if you feel

like feminine hygiene products are too

icky to go get them for your significant

that's the joke but I I but I say it in

a way that is sort of intended not to

offend people too much I guess

like I beat around the bush a little bit

so I basically go you know if you are if

you are if there's a feminine hygiene

emergency in your house and you are too

embarrassed to talk to a real live human

being while you go buy these things well

then great news for you there's the

Amazon ghost story I'm poking fun at the

idea that we are so fresh we are so

fragile and we are so desperate to avoid

any kind of human contact whatsoever

that we need a store with no cashiers so

we can buy pads that's the joke but

people are mad at me cuz they're like

you are normalizing the like because

there's honestok view that females are

gross

kurodo the enemy is so back to this back

to this accessory the actual backstory

here is that I had to go buy this bloody

thing including the the controller

because Microsoft isn't seating them for

whatever reason I was like okay fine you

know what forget it this is such an

important product to cover which we've

actually talked about in the past - but

what fine we're just we're gonna we're

just gonna buy it

so that we can try it because people

need to know about this because it's

super cool so I post one tweet teasing

them about reusing plastic molding and

it's like now I hate disabled gamers or

something I saw the commercial for it

watching the Super Bowl with my family

and I went on a rant about how cool it

is that they made it and how it's like

not a prophet play but it's like really

cool because it could really enable

different people to be able to play

these games more effectively than they

could already super super cool product

so so yeah what I was basically going to

say was that it's not fair to take down

a whole bunch of these channels where

it's clear I did have one more point go

for it okay sorry yeah yeah thing there

no I'm good

that's fine so point number two is that

in the case of any one of these videos

where the subject matter is minors

there's a really really gray legal area

around monetization of YouTube videos

containing minors so on the one hand I

could say you know what any video that I

shoot with my son I am his parent or

guardian it's my video i I'm monetizing

it that's you know what I'm gonna spend

some of that money on stuff for him what

is it there's like no there's a clause

specifically for this it's named after

someone who so I pay my kids whenever

they had Joe in our videos yeah because

I think there is going to be a huge poop

shell especially when with a lot of the

family vlogger channels where these kids

who were minors

not under the protections and the

stipulations of how miners in the film

industry are supposed to be treated

where these miners are gonna grow into

adults and they're gonna say hey like

some of the big channels there's

literally millions of dollars at play

over the course of all the years they've

been running hey where's my check and no

the roof over my head and the food in my

tummy

is not payment so to me monetizing

content with a miner who you are let's

face it probably not paying you're not

paying little Johnny for the ice skating

video that you're posting on YouTube and

you know what there's probably not a ton

of money involved in it but as soon as

there's any there's potentially a

problem here so we're looking at content

where miners are potentially without

fully understanding the ramifications of

being present on social media where

miners are being monetized um I guess

what I'm trying to say is yeah so

there's a law I knew about this the

Coogan law I knew yes it was named after

someone was enacted to protect the

earnings of child actors this is

different because it's for movies where

that child actor is paid and then the

parents take the money it's different is

it it's different right now but it's

probably going to end up covering the

same stuff and what you're doing is

probably quite logical so I guess yeah I

guess we're just in I guess we're just

in a bit of an interesting situation

it'll happen to someone I don't think

necessarily that it is that it makes

sense for people to unless they're doing

everything by the book and employing

their children as actors I don't think

it makes sense for them to be monetizing

this type of content so I guess YouTube

and I'm I am speculating I've not spoken

to anyone at YouTube about this but I

guess YouTube is looking at this going

ok we have a problem with our

advertisers

they don't like their ads on anything

that could be perceived as pedophilia

okay we have problem number two our own

perception we don't want YouTube to be

perceived as profiting off of pedophilia

and child pornography however softcore

it may be and problem number three is

that this has the potential to freakin

blow up at some point anyway

is this even really right I think it's a

distant third to be very clear because

YouTube has a lot of stuff on it that I

kind of go yeah is that really right

yeah but there's there's my argument

there's my argument for why I actually

don't think they made a bad move here

sorry I will let you go now I realize I

talked for a very long time

no that's fine I think as long as you I

think that's all super valid especially

the part about the child actors it's not

the same technically but I think it's

it's going to go poorly at some point in

time like I was saying someone is going

to be the the main host of a YouTube

channel who's a child and then they're

gonna grow up and be like where's all my

money and those videos are still gonna

be monetized and they're still not gonna

be making money off of it and there's

gonna be some new law or an attendant to

the coogan law or whatever it's like

legally a minor cannot actually

absolutely recently that a minor could

even create a Google account so I pretty

much guarantee you most of the Google

accounts there for the YouTube channels

that are run by kids are owned by their

parents yeah that makes you their

employer anyway sorry yeah so like that

that's gonna have to be handled somehow

and that's its own entire problem I

don't think it's completely fair in in

the like okay we get to a problem where

Google isn't the government so like it

doesn't matter if it's fair or not it

doesn't matter at all if it's fair or

not they're a private company they can

do whatever the heck they want so

whatever but if we were looking at it

that way which is not fair to Google or

YouTube but it's it's I don't think it's

entirely fair to to take these channels

down or D monetize them when it is the

complete opposite of the intention of

the channel it's not their fault some

weird person on the internet likes it

and maybe those people should look into

to say blink on comments or like that

lady actually said in her chain of

tweets

she's very militant about like cleansing

her comment section so she's probably

already kind of taking care of it I just

have a question if all you're doing is

removing the comments are you solving

the problem you solve the problem of

that like network thing you're talking

about because I'm assuming what the idea

is they were going to someone's channel

that doesn't have videos and can you

still search up work because someone

comments on things not sure I don't know

you used to be able to go to someone's

page on YouTube even if they didn't

upload any videos and you could see

their comments across the whole site and

I'm assuming they have like central

accounts and they go to those and they

see all the timestamps on all the

different videos so if you shut off

comments and you shut that off or just

make it so you can't see a single

accounts comments across the site

because what's really the mechanism of

that other than but you could spoil

someone you could still consolidate all

this information off-site somewhere else

and click on time-stamped youtube links

yeah that's true dojin asks so instead

of the video making money for the

creator google this makes the money no

they're pulling the advertising off them

entirely yeah so Google's not making

money at all I mean I guess what I'm

more meant was like if you're if you're

a concerned parent seeing these comments

on and I'm not I'm not I'm not judging

everyone's in their own situation I

don't know what kind of comments we're

moderated but if you're a concerned

parent seeing comments where pedophiles

are watching the content wouldn't the

actual course of action yourself pull it

down yourself or to cut out or censor or

bladder horns that are making people so

excited she was saying that her son does

gymnastics so maybe there's parts where

his shirt comes up or something maybe

work on getting him some clothes that

doesn't do that or cut out the parts

where that happens but I don't think

that all children doing any form of

gymnastics should be universally banned

across the entire internet like that

seems a little aggressive

yeah that's madness yeah there needs to

be some type of like need to be able to

do athletic things as a child and like

have it be okay because that's

ridiculous

but as a parent I think it's reasonable

to cut out parts where there's clothing

malfunctions or to just get some clothes

that don't do that that's very possible

so part of the issue this is a great

comment from YouTube URLs on forum all

right use me floatplane one of the

issues was that because the comments

were so self referential and had so many

cross links between them once you

watched a couple of these videos your

entire recommended would be filled with

more of them which was how it was so

easy to find a bunch of this type of

material

so yes moderating your comments how are

they sold would help bridge that like

because they have so many of the same

keywords and stuff so they become

tightly associated so they would like

put in a bunch of keywords and then a

timestamp so the algorithm was was

figuring well they were like discussing

like oh at this point there's a nipple

slip and stuff like the comments are

really explicit they're not just a

timestamp I thought it was supposed to

be sneaky I thought it was just

timestamps that's that's how was that

not picked up that seems like the

easiest thing if if literally the

algorithm can find like comments in

order to suggest them to you couldn't

they just have used that to remove the

cons and banning accounts seems pretty

straightforward you've already got it

working for similar you you literally

are able to detect similar comments and

suggest those videos like it doesn't

seem like a difficult next step anyway

so I I don't like the idea of just

purging all those types of videos I do

like the idea of parents making sure

they're they're cleansed videos and

maybe give your kids some better clothes

for gymnastics

well the gymnastics thing to like it

could just be that it's very tight

fitting clothes yeah and a lot of like

the thing is a lot of sports attire is

kind of revealing I mean look at like

tennis attire for example almost any

sports attire hockey football pants yeah

football pants they do not leave a lot

to the imagination though you're behind

the center you know what though that

butt looks like hey buddy

yeah but like yeah I don't I don't I

don't think that should mean that you

can never have a video of boys football

there are plenty of videos of my brother

and I playing football when we were

children I don't think any of those are

not okay so it's a complicated issue

YouTube's general policy for this type

of stuff is to lay the SmackDown and

then let it back a little and then dial

it back slowly so that's probably what

they're doing yeah there's always

collateral damage and there's always Pat

bad PR to go along with it in this case

I don't necessarily fundamentally

disagree with what they're doing but

yeah what it is I guess like and I mean

you know the thing too is like that's

easy for me to say but what if what if

the only thing paying for those

gymnastics lessons was the monetization

on these videos like everyone's

situation is really really different in

their lives and that's something that we

also have to consider yeah one thing we

know for sure is that floatplane

yeah wouldn't be pulling content down

yeah slightly more of a walled garden

because people would have to pay to

access that content also your comment

section is going to be much smaller and

filled with better people so you

probably wouldn't have these types of

situations in general anyways

and and yeah he just wouldn't make a ton

of sense that's great it's great for us

isn't it great whenever YouTube has like

terrible PR yeah I didn't actually know

a lot about this story I just knew it

was a bad PR story for YouTube so I was

like well soft looks like I still I

still love YouTube to be completely fair

I spend a lot of time on YouTube but and

we're like started your career on

YouTube that's it yep and we're like

actually not competing with YouTube at

all in any way but the better YouTube

does the better flow plane does 100% so

I actually like at anytime someone's

like okay there's two sections to this

first off anytime someone's like oh

someone just needs to like anyone out

there just needs to make a youtube clone

and then YouTube will die first of all

first of all I'm like well hopefully not

and second of all I'm like well no

that's not how that would work at all

not even slightly

and it's been attempted many times

the reason why you don't know is cuz it

didn't matter what was the most recent

one bid me I think so they're gone dead

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man alright I'm having just one more

there you go actually you know what

we're going snowboarding right yeah so

I'm gonna work this off bring some so I

can eat the whole thing jerky on the

mountains awesome mmm yeah fresh man if

you take like a pit stop somewhere pull

some jerky oh I have not been

snowboarding in so friggin long and you

bored not ski I skied until I was like

11 okay and then I switched to boarding

but I would ski like 20 30 times a year

from when I was like six to when I was

11 and then like three times a year

after that so I've actually skied more

than I've boarded in my life okay do you

think you'll board or ski then all

aboard okay yeah I like it better like

fun to go back on skis I'm also a

cheapskate though and I own a board okay

my board is so old though and I'm fairly

sure the sides are like actually rusty

um a little bit of rust is okay but you

can also give it to there's there's a

shop oh yeah and they can just yeah no

no I'm I'm like actually kind of excited

it's been so long since I've been on a

board yeah speaking of excitement this

is posted by Zed

there are Maxwell on the forum the

Samsung Galaxy fold it was unveiled at

their unpacked event this week it's got

a 7

point three-inch infinity flex display

with a smaller 4.6 inch display that's

used for closed mode it's got 512 gigs

of EU FS 3.0 storage it's got a qualcomm

7 nanometre octa-core processor 12 gigs

of ram because why not it's got two

batteries that are separated by the fold

but combined in the Android operating

system for four thousand three hundred

and eighty milliamp hours into launch on

April 26th at a price of almost two

thousand of US Dollars and that's so ok

so us so convert it to Canadian and

adjusted for inflation because Ajay

called me out when I said this that

phone is legitimately more expensive

than my first car the convertible that

blew up on a bridge it wasn't exactly

the greatest car ever but it still ran

for like a fair amount of years and that

phone is more expensive than it like

that not crazy what no really for a

second I thought you're talking about

the fold in between but how big is the

actual notch I'm pretty sure it's not I

haven't I didn't watch the unpacked

event I didn't either but I've seen

concept shots hold on a second I hope

I'm not blew up ok the car didn't blow

up the fuel pump and fuel injectors

legitimately did pop though dang it

what happened there's a video of it on

YouTube Linus was making fun of me had

to come save me so actually I'll let you

go first this time I'll give you my take

on it after I think it's ridiculous

really yeah I think it's very cool I

think it's probably one of the better

implementations of this that I've seen I

think it's ridiculous because of its

price

oh yeah that's a notch for sure yeah

yeah I think you're right yeah they

really don't show it very much do they

nope

I think it's gonna be very hard to not

break this I think the battery life

issues are going to be real so like the

pretty pronounced I I think it's gonna

it's gonna wow that's very pronounced

yes they really show it there yeah

holy who would play a game like that I

don't really see this as like a gaming

no I batteries in phones suck this has

been known for a while I was talking to

Jaden the other day his a lot of his way

older phones even now have better

battery life than some of these newer

phones by the time you're - let alone

three years into a phone its batteries

just trashed if you use it consistently

like at all so they're gonna expect you

to swap this thing everyone like if

you're spending that much on the phone

you're probably swapping it every year

too because if you're in the market for

that expensive of phones you're probably

not someone who's holding on to the

phone for three years you're probably a

power user who's cycling their phone

pretty quick so you gonna spend like

over two grand on a phone every year

every year or two so they say it should

last for a hundred folds a day for five

years two hundred thousand full but no

one's gonna keep okay so that's good

because then the fold part won't break

in the reasonable lifespan of the phone

so that's good or it shouldn't six

cameras triple camera on the rear well

one of them is 16 megapixel ultra wide

one is 12 megapixel wide-angle and one

is telephoto a 10 megapixel camera for

selfies in the front and two cameras on

the inside for some reason on the giant

notch we're not sure exactly why those

are there games streaming I'm just

guessing so I'm gonna say something that

might not be that popular I think this

is a future I don't disagree with that I

just hope it's not this expensive no

give it time

yeah no it's yeah that's great having a

having a screen that you can pull out of

your pocket that turns this big that's

fantastic I completely agree with you I

don't think that's even that controversy

a matter of time before they'll like

fold to waste sure heck yeah I want

bigger the the like foldable paper that

as digital has been like a dream thing

for for lots of people since my

generation was kids this is this is not

surprising I don't think it is not the

future at all I just think it's crazy

this exact version is nutsoid

and I think I wouldn't be surprised if

part of the price point that they're

doing is like trying to get sort of less

people to buy it because they just want

some of it to go out there and this

thing is gonna be hard to manufacture

this is brand new technology

yeah I mean it's not gonna have that

many of them to put it in perspective

the fact that Samsung is confident

enough to even sell this thing is

mind-blowing to me because yeah one that

I saw at CES from that other company was

terrible well wasn't it Samsung that

went on stage and they showed that like

terrible prototype of their really

blocky one yeah it was Samsung mm-hmm

yeah yeah but no there's someone else

that's selling it mm-hmm that's selling

a foldable phone the thing is awful it's

terrible this looks really smooth the

screen fold on this looks really nice

mm-hmm like actually really that looks

like a very nice phone if it was that

phone but way cheaper it would be very

cool so maybe in a few years hopefully

we'll see but yeah I'm far from

interested in this version I'm stoked

for the people that are because you get

to guinea pig tested for videos I'd want

to try it out but like there's no way I

would end up daily driving it at this

point in time I don't think I mean I

could be I could totally be proven wrong

though I could 100% get use out of it

out of the big screen all that kind of

stuff but yeah yeah I suspect there be

too many problems the fact that even new

releases of normal phones have so many

problems scares me for something like

that but few years down the line yeah be

awesome

all right do we have anything else for

topics today Apple 2019 leaks so

reliable Apple analyst Ming Chico has

released a list of suspected Apple

releases for this year apparently

they'll come back to the display market

with a 6k monitor on a set to feature a

mini LED like backlight design Fenton Oh

fascinating

iPhones will retain lightning

connectivity and will be the same size

ultra wideband connectivity for indoor

positioning

navigation frosted glass casing frosted

glass would be cool be nice mmm upgraded

face idea larger battery is ooh okay Mac

new MacBook Pro between 16 and 16 and a

half inches and a new Mac Pro with easy

to upgrade components our pods to with

support for wireless charging iPod touch

okay iPad 2 new iPad pro models neat you

know what's funny

now flow planes probably gonna have to

buy a Mac Mini what for one of its

employees why for their computer why God

why cuz they would like to work on a Mac

I have to buy a Mac it's a Mac Mini you

know what we actually are planning to

buy another Mac Mini already really yeah

so a lot of the software for ingesting

footage is either Apple only or better

on Apple so the camera then if we can

get the issue sorted out because so far

it hasn't actually been better but if

the camera done figures out a workflow

that's better on Mac the Mac Mini is

kind of unique it's relatively

affordable and it has a 10-game adoption

Wow see it's really small also

relatively affordable have you seen

their RAM options well you can upgrade

the RAM

yourself oh yeah mm-hmm oh yeah so I

thought it was soldered no so you throw

them a couple Mac minis just like on the

back of a monitor or whatever plug in

USB for your card readers and stuff 10

gig LAN it's actually kind of like we

found a use case where the Mac Mini

really was the best computer on the

market for what we were trying to do

nice and compact 10 gig already built in

there you go I know right

who woulda thunk it that that Ram thing

is actually really good to know can you

talk with the drive - no I don't know is

it just RAM that's swappable I believe

so ok good to know

still Apple yeah it just happens to have

swappable Ram

yeah yeah I just thought the drive was

soldered in that's that's actually

really cool that

jadynn can get way more RAM Jaden needs

a Mac work on a PC now yeah but there is

actually he's been having some troubles

today and it's easier for him to develop

on his laptop at home right now I'm

compared to his PC at work so we'll talk

about this later and I think that's it

for wind chill for today guys your fault

you told me I can say your name thanks

for tuning in same bat-time same

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