Why Do We Need a Folding PC?? - WAN Show May 17, 2019 #Helpful Post

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yeah what's gonna happen to that vaad

like can that go live can your new

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you guys don't have a local recording do

we okay you could do so you can handle a

three-hour video Oh like how bad is that

gonna qual tears of thing so floatplane

a lot of people probably don't know this

what

flow planes transcode you know what I

think happens you leave the laptop there

and then you drift Oh cuz I want to send

her myself I think I finally figured it

out why you're always like five inches

too far that one anyway so floatplanes

transcode system used to be serial so

basically if Linus media group were to

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bit wit could end up waiting literally

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all the different at all the different

quality levels yeah that won't happen

anymore

so actually almost just as like a test

yeah I think you guys should upload the

local fog okay and we should just like

see how it goes sure cuz that would be

that would be good alright so we've got

a great show for you guys today I hope

James prepared it and then I actually

told him he didn't have time to prepare

the wine show anymore so we have

whatever he was done at that point okay

because we had to spend the entire day

building gaming rigs so you know the

land center yeah for unit 101 but so we

had no time to do it basically I've been

really frustrated because that project

has been sitting there for

weeks basically ready for us to just

like build it yeah but we just can't get

our act together and get it done because

they're quite complicated builds with

all the RGB and but I also thought you

had to go upstairs so we are gonna have

to move it upstairs but that doesn't

mean we can't build the systems okay and

once the systems are built yeah doesn't

mean we can't put them on a desk you

know so so we're putting them all on

desks and we're getting the whole thing

set up because I'm just tired of staring

at that and not being able to like play

games also we have a games night planned

for after work today yeah so we figured

we might as well play some video games

oh so we might as well go it was built

so we grabbed like literally half the

company Andy was a super champ and held

the camera for the entire three-hour

stream on an easy race okay Chrissy 200

not a red or C 300 whatever it is yeah

it was one of the cannons not a red yeah

so that helps but later did you build

though he's a super trooper so I built

one oh but here's the thing because they

were such complicated builds I only

built one and because we had helpers

like Dennis and Colton and nothing

against those guys they just don't build

computers very often don't work well no

one really screwed anything up super

royally okay yeah so there's so there's

that I just can't think of the last time

Dennis build a computer the last time

you built a computer was his editing

workstation yeah almost four years ago

ya know I dunno it was a bad it was a

bad scene yeah apparently Andy missed

lunch too yeah so so that's we're gonna

buy him dinner yeah yeah that's fair

yeah we'll buy him some dinner yeah you

can have a lunch voucher too I suppose I

could I could let that slide I think

anyway so sorry we've got a we've got a

hopefully great show for you guys today

yeah I get to do some backtracking

because I was rude last week the u.s.

bans huawei lenovo announced a folding

pc so that's interesting

don't be a hater we'll talk about I

haven't seen it yet but like okay

Microsoft Sony team up for game

streaming that's you know weird and

stuff and Supreme Court allows antitrust

lawsuit against the app store that's

actually a very interesting super which

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oh yeah all right so why don't we jump

right into our headline topic yeah that

was my new year's resolution a few weeks

ago Android authority says and this was

originally posted on the forum by Erica

s this is this is tremendous forget

about foldable phones here's the first

foldable PC and I really like this

headline because forget about foldable

phones is such a such an appropriate

thing to say given that Samsung is only

now getting to the point where they're

like re committing a ship date for the

Galaxy fold like that thing could have

ended up cancelled as far as I can tell

yeah so I know it's just

alright I don't okay I understand the

use case of foldable phones but I don't

think they're ready okay so like down

the line back us up here back

all right what's the use case of a

foldable phone for you I there are many

times where if I'm sitting stationary

somewhere for a while and I know I'm

gonna be waiting something waiting for

something for a while being able to fold

out a phone and having a big screen

would be cool okay

I could more easily use like Google

sheets which it's really heckuva but

yeah the chats all like F that was a

long freaking cut okay well at any rate

it seems like we're back and waitin for

YouTube yeah good Chad hasn't really

we're back ladies and gentleman back

there we go okay so you were talking

about how making your little thing

bigger is definitely a prime use case so

it's sometimes a utilitarian way of

story about things yeah so yeah I like

the idea of being able to expand my

phone because oh right I wanted to offer

a counterpoint for like working on a

long email so I actually hate typing on

a tablet and the reason is that I find

it's this super awkward

tweener size where it's not big enough

to type with all my hands but not small

enough to type with my thumbs

so I haven't actually used a galaxy fold

yet but what I want to know is if my

phone was double the width would I be

able to comfortably type on it I think I

could okay I can understand the but like

if I go to I can't really show that very

well but if I go to hands on this phone

like it's pretty cramped I'm faster at

typing on this one with one hand got it

okay so I I'm not sure because I haven't

done it that's pretty wide apart so it's

gonna come down to hand size and

dexterity alright it's okay okay so

you've got like I could see it I haven't

done it yet but I could see myself

liking a folding phone that's pretty

weird this is a better picture of it I

yeah I'm just gonna fire this up that's

pretty weird I I don't I'm not against

it I just don't understand yet I guess

okay like it's a tablet that you can go

like okay like why do I want that tile

to be around the corner I don't

I just I don't know I don't understand

the use case for it I am willing to

accept that I could just be blind yeah

but I've gotten stuff wrong

I got phablets wrong yeah I totally

missed the mark on that I was like this

is stupid anything bigger than the

iPhone 4 is dumb because you can't use

it with one hand and now even with my

small hands I'm a note user and like I

just I've learned to adjust my grip I

get my pinkie like way over here I get

this over here and then I get to get

that way reach across there like I'll

I'll be moving it around in my hand

actually drop it very rarely I don't

even use a case yeah I've been wondering

for a while if we're gonna evolve to

have like weighed more jacked pinkies

because there's so many people

supporting their phones like this with

all the weight of the phone almost all

the weight on the phone on there it has

to allow it like it has to select for

like breeding capability and I don't

think being buried in your phone with

like a super you know dexterous pinky is

gonna tinder efficiency so pinkies and

phones more agile probably a little bit

thinner less meaty thumbs that can dart

around faster yeah and like pinkies I

get a support wait so we can talk

through some of this now to be down here

what's really crazy about this is that

it's not just like a weird concept

product like this is a real thing it's

gonna be part of their thing pad x1

lineup it's got a 13.3 inch OLED display

from LG it's 2k resolution and a four by

three aspect ratio that is really

interesting it's pretty funky now with

so it's gonna have an Intel CPU they're

aiming for a full day battery with

support for cellular data making it kind

of like tablet II but it's gonna it

won't run Microsoft's OS which opens up

interesting possibilities for the

software it comes with a Wacom pen and a

separate keyboard so it's like more like

a folding tablet but like 13.3 inches is

really really big for

tablet yeah but also like pretty small

for laptop not definitely not unheard of

small there's tons of laptops in that in

that size range but that's on the

smaller stuff now one laptop running

actually like kind of a I would call it

a demo on top of Windows 10 that I saw

was a Seuss's dual screen laptop that

they showed off at Computex about a year

ago so I don't know if you ever saw this

I should actually I should bring up I

should bring up the video a sous do

little screen so a sous had some ideas

at the very least for what they thought

so this is just it but the screen

doesn't fold basically just hinge and

mute this okay so go ahead and full

screen this so it was like a Zen book on

the back there you go yeah at the bottom

and then it just had a normal laptop

hinge but both surfaces here were

screened so the idea was that you had a

touch-sensitive keyboard here I'm gonna

pause it this might be weird yeah I feel

like I would prefer that more I was

gonna say I think both of them are kind

of rough ideas I don't like it

like I'm just saying compared to the

other one if I have to pick one I'd

probably go with this one but I still

don't like it because the typing

experience is gonna be so bad and if I'm

gonna use my laptop instead of my phone

to be fair I might be watching something

but then I'm only gonna use one over the

screen here's the thing though people

who care about the typing experience

are they freaks is touch typing at a

hundred and thirty words per minute

going to go away auto correction is even

in like Gmail now yeah and all

form-filling Gmail with tab and like

pretty good the thing to me is that I

can usually unless it's completing a

particularly long phrase I can usually

type faster than I can read process and

go over to tab and then hold on a second

did it put punctuation in there or not

like kind of refined my way it's usually

faster for me to just type it out I'm a

pretty fast typist but

clearly that feature exists for a

freaking reason so are we gonna get to

the point where the vast majority of

what normal people would type just like

texts to friends and short emails and

stuff like that can just be heavily

assisted to the point where the keyboard

becomes far less important than having

more screen space to multitask could

that happen I wonder if this is gonna be

my old grouchy guy that doesn't like new

technology thing is I don't like touch

interfaces right the phone I'm okay with

the phones fine anything outside of

phone I hate like if you have like a

microwave or a washing machine or DSLR

camera if it's a touch interface I'm

probably not gonna like it

so is touch-typing going to become like

an equivalent of shorthand we're like

the advent of typing really made

shorthand notation kind of irrelevant

yeah and I wonder if like if the

Google's Gmail thing and whatever else

that they're doing where it

autocompletes on tab is gonna get even

stronger and it's gonna get to the point

where because this happens with texting

a little bit like I can text without

looking at my phone because I know if I

butcher a word and like miss type half

the letters it's still gonna get it so

like does it even really you can just

type three letters per word well here's

something one of typing in the future is

going to turn into typing half of the

word every time Microsoft own Swift key

so there's no reason why a Windows

device like this couldn't take full

advantage of Swift keys from my

experience very nicely predictive

texting yeah we got stereo sensation

backing us up here he'll know we typed

code over here WTF yeah okay some people

are always going to need to actually

type the whole thing because if you let

your autocomplete like it's you know

okay so autocomplete like just like

sentences and having a conversation

that's just like full autocomplete

that's pretty funny an autocomplete

program what

you're gonna end up with flop plane flop

just like that it doesn't fly it just

like kind of hops along in the trees

right hoppy plane that would be an

amazing like the whole site just like

goes but it's just floppy plane

I know Jaden could do it for a fact

right because he basically has done it

right yeah why didn't we come up with

this Rasmus here I don't think we had

enough time by the time we realized

April Fool's is coming up floppy plane

Oh

so anyway back to lenovo's device some

press outlets did get hands-on with it

and based on their impressions with a

functional prototype the display was dim

and had poor viewing angles and so this

has to be to do with making it foldable

because this is the first LG foldable

OLED that I'm aware of

mm-hmm as far as I know Samsung is using

their own display and actually don't

quote me on this I'm actually not a

hundred percent sure who was using for

the made X huawei mate X OLED I know

there's autocomplete and programming I

know there's actually a fair amount of

it especially when putting in variables

and stuff like that we're talking about

like whole sentences and stuff the Gmail

style autocomplete that I'm talking

about is punctuation full sense yes

situation okay so they're apparently

sourcing from boe display so not LG so

this is the first foldable LG OLED that

I'm aware of on a production device and

to be clear to prototype not a

production device but it's possible

because like I know LG's OLED can be

pretty freakin good from their phones

from their TVs but what we don't know is

what their process is for putting their

foldable display materials on or excuse

me their OLED display on like some type

of a foldable glass or plastic plastic

so

I'm out I'm out personally but then we

shark tanking this night II guess so I

might end up eating my words because I

was wrong about phablets now husband and

absolutely I'm in on phones

I just I'm they're not ready yet so I'm

not doing it because I need my phone to

be primo all the time

phablets have been a huge tech trend

that I got completely wrong like far

more wrong than I think I've been about

almost anything since founding Linus

Media Group like VR AR I was like I know

you mean that but it's like Oh like it's

know that it sounds like you were very

very wrong about founding my no I'm

still I'm still behind that idea I'm

pretty stoked on that yeah and

floatplane might even be okay to one day

yeah we'll get there one day

yeah but but no I was completely wrong

about that so ever since that I've been

I've been a little more hesitant to kind

of say this is a terrible trend

manufacturers need to cut this out and

actually as part of my sort of recent

attempt to be a little bit less just

hateful I guess and like really negative

okay I ended up taking a lot of flack on

the 1 + 7 Pro video so you were - not

hateful Wow at the beginning of the

video I basically come out and I say

here's everything that's wrong with the

1 + 7 Pro and I say it doesn't have

waterproofness it doesn't have a

waterproof certification so my

understanding has actually cost a

significant amount of money to get that

IP rating on the product and you can

make a product that is perfectly

waterproof and just not submit resistant

resistant thank you and just not submit

it and then it will just be that but

there's no label we're sure the price

has even gone up with the amount of how

important a feature it is yeah yeah it's

become a much more popular feature on a

range of devices these days so we know

ready from our tour of one-plus factory

that they do make efforts to make their

devices water-resistant they just don't

pay for the certification so I called

out that it didn't have that

certification doesn't have wireless

charging which for a lot of you

shouldn't get them to do that you should

get them to partner up with you to do a

project and give you like a whole bunch

of phones and get like Alex and James or

something to rig up a system that like

dunks them on timers we create our own

like cheaper certification of like l-l

IP yeah I'd be I'd be interested in I

don't know if I'd actually make a real

certification for it but like I'd be

interested in seeing you guys do the

testing that would be kind of fun

actually anyway where was I going with

this right so then the other thing that

I criticized was the lack of a headphone

jack so I said this is all the negative

things about it this and then I said but

I'm not gonna harp on that too much

because most the vast majority of

flagship phones these days don't have a

headphone jack and I got a lot of flack

for not like hating on it enough and

here's the thing guys I am NOT giving up

my headphone jack anytime soon which is

a big part of the reason that in spite

of how much I love the 1 plus 7 Pro and

the performance that it gives this is

back in my pocket you have Samsung Note

9 got that headphone jack got that

wireless charging got that everything

this phone just like I love this phone

to be honest with you it doesn't have

the greatest camera I accept that

Samsung's OS quite frankly is just not

as snappy as oneplus as oxygen OS but

I'm willing to accept that because I use

the stylus once in a while now I never

thought I'd care I don't think I've ever

seen you use a stylus I I use it very

occasionally so like when I was going to

Ikea a few weekends ago I took a picture

of my Smokies popped out the stylist

wrote all the measurements on my picture

and then I had that as a reference when

I was at the store cool you can do it

with your finger but it's harder

that was actually why I was a little bit

a little bit longer ago while I was

reviewing me

10-plus so I was like trying to do it

the s10 I was like this is annoying I'm

gonna go grab my note 9 and just do it

on the note because it's easier yeah so

so there you go

stylus anyway what do you what do you

think about the 3a having a headphone

jack and 3x oh I'm annoyed that

headphone jacks are being treated like a

budget feature like you couldn't afford

wireless earphones yeah so you need a

headphone jack because a lot of more

premium audio experiences or wired do

rely on the headphone jack exactly so

the thing though is that this is a trend

that I personally thought was very

obvious as soon as Apple removed the

headphone jack I was like this is

terrible this is a terrible trend this

needs to not happen and I remember

having a very enlightening conversation

every once in a while it's good to talk

to a normal person like like a not techy

person yeah and so I was chatting with

the guy that runs the Badminton Center

that I usually hang out at and I was

like yo so you got the iPhone 7 sup

how's that going and he's like yeah I

love it and I'm like doesn't have a

headphone jack

he's like oh yeah I was like is that

gonna be a problem for you and he's like

are you kidding me I switched to

Bluetooth earphones like two years ago

and he uses de birds and he's like I

haven't I haven't plugged anything to a

headphone jack in years and I was like

oh oh and I was like but those don't

sound very good

he's like I'm good enough for me but you

have to charge them it's like yeah I

gotta charge my phone too I'm trying to

catch you on something here I love to

picked on yeah she's never worn

headphones in her life oh well alright

so what I have to kind of accept here

and what I have to hope for I have to

accept that needing wired headphones is

becoming more and more niche as time

passes and what I have to hope is that

someone is going

to carry the torch LG seems pretty

committed to it still but here's the

thing their mobile handset division is

really struggling

so clearly this this this group of

people that's like yeah headphone jack

Rob Rob Rob I'm gonna buy folks

headphone jacks boom he's clearly not

enough to you know keep LG alive that is

unless Samsung ditches it and all those

people do actually move over to LG so

we'll see if that happens but in the

meantime I'm still really sincerely

hoping that Samsung is going to continue

to support the headphone jack I don't I

don't know if I don't know if I don't

know if I am putting my faith in the

wrong place but that's that's all I

really have because who else hasn't

ditched it yet

you got LG you got Samsung I mean Google

brought it back with the three a that

would be an amazing thing for Google to

bring back with the pixel four I'd be so

stoked I would switch to the pixel four

because we would surely be rid of the

knotch by then nachos were a stupid

horrible trend

I have never daily driven a notched

phone and I will never do it because

full screen display tower full display

screens are here now full display

screens full what do we call them

whatever all display phones yeah

full frontal thank you all display

phones are already here and there's

great ones like the 1 + 7 Pro if you're

into that like the Galaxy Note 9 which

okay fine it isn't full but whatever

this strip at the top you weren't going

to use it anyway feel a little bit yeah

like we have massive display phones

already there's no reason to use an

arched phone in my opinion so I just

hope that I have some kind of an option

a pixel 4 with a headphone jack and no

not would be my phone quite honestly

yeah I'd do it I'd give up the stylus

I'd give up the stylus that I use like

once a month it doesn't sound like a

huge sacrifice

I also like scribbling on screenshots

with it so I oh oh I've been hosted

finger that

yeah it's harder like this one

right here so I posted on Twitter

earlier this week with a screenshot of

the monetization tab in the YouTube

dashboard for the roast how far back

does this go a lot of tweets miss a

while ago oh yeah there it is oh yeah

okay okay so I'm like I got like my

thumbs up I'm circling stuff drawing

faces it really is a lot easier to do

with the stylus sorry it looks kind of

like that also I have an update on that

so the video does actually have some

adsense revenue now which is pretty cool

but earlier today we got a yellow icon

yellow icon baby there it is you guys

can't see it whatever it's the it can't

be too surprised with that one I'm not I

mean we self-reported that it contains

strong language and all that kind of

stuff so it is what it is yeah but yep

we are not we are not going to be making

up the shortfall in our budgeting for

that with the yellow icon to be clear

madrenas held up their end of the

bargain we just blew a lot more money on

the event than we had originally planned

like flying people out to attend it and

all that kind of stuff so it is what it

is we had a lot of fun buy a shirt there

pretty cool if I could say so myself

yeah I think they're pretty smashing you

know what I got a wonder there's 8,000

people watching the wind show now how

many of them have been watching us just

don't like YouTube for hours today you

know what I want to stop all this can

you can you straw pull this up Josh

bowling pcs ah like okay right so back

to the headphone thing the reason so I

took a bunch of I took a bunch of flack

for this in the 7 Pro review and the

reason that I had hedged my bets was I

didn't want to like I didn't want to

pick that hill that I'm dying on again

and turned out to be wrong especially

for my experience talking to normal

people who just plain don't care yeah

okay one quick thing do we want to make

this a poll just about folding pcs or

should we ask about folding phones as

well no holding phones are happening

okay that's like there's no question so

we want to know are we missing the mark

on folding pcs is that going to be a

thing

or do we already have pcs that fold

exactly as much as they need to with a

proper clamshell that contains a proper

keyboard and at worst a trackpad so

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actually see it moving around there so

that's pretty cool back and through the

front it passes through completely you

can feel the momentum swing a little bit

that's actually really cool yeah that's

also your watches check them out more

details at the link in the video

description alright so we've got a few

more things to cover for land show here

Oh first of all I want to jump in and

apologize to folks with autism spectrum

disorder so I had said last week that

Asperger's is no longer considered its

own diagnosis but I made it seem as

though being a high-functioning person

on the autism spectrum is not valid so

the way that Asperger's was changed is

such that it isn't its own discrete

diagnosis anymore but that doesn't mean

that it is not still classified as sort

of a high-functioning part of the autism

spectrum okay so some people were upset

because they felt like I was making it

sound like Asperger's wasn't a thing

it's still a thing it just doesn't have

the same label because it's just

considered part of the autism spectrum

now right some people were also upset

because I had said we're all kind of on

the autism spectrum what I had intended

to say by that was that everyone feels

that way sometimes but yes they made an

excellent point that autism is

considered an excessive amount of that

kind of feeling or those kinds of

behaviors and so some people were

emailed me and were pretty upset because

they were like look it's hard enough as

sort of a high-functioning person with

autism to explain to people that no it's

not the same as just being shy and so I

felt like that was a very fair thing to

bring up with me and I should probably

clarify it on the show this week will

make sense so there you go in other news

this is from Sen pecan Orange

depending on who you prefer the us been

oh no let's get back to oh let's get

back to our survey first so Luke screen

mm-hmm are we missing the mark unfolding

pcs I love your options 774 of you say

no they are exactly as trash as you

think and 18% say yes they're gonna be

massive

you really didn't leave a lot of room

for middle some people pointed out that

there wasn't a middle answer I did that

on purpose as I guess if you're gonna be

a futurist with a crystal ball you got a

pick yeah

you like being wishy-washy and be like

oh they might be neat you could classify

almost anything as nice as long as the

company keeps making it like it sits are

they gonna make it or know it yeah I

don't know this is a giant piece of

bacon there's a massive piece I'm gonna

put it in my mouth hole

oh my okay I'll be jumping to us Ben's

Huawei chair oh boy so the US Commerce

Department has added Huawei and 70

affiliates whoa 72 it's entity list that

bans the telecom giant from buying parts

and components from US companies without

US government approval also known as

just know it also makes it difficult to

it also makes it difficult if not

impossible for a while way to sell some

products because of its reliance on us

suppliers if they don't think this is

gonna come back to bite them I don't

know man

so I feel I feel like quite a few US

manufacturers are gonna get wrecked

because of this because it's it's just

gonna this is just a punch for punch I

for I trade war that's been going on

with US and China and Canada to a

certain degree I mean we're not gonna

get too political cuz that's not really

our jam on this sugar but can I just

sort can we have like a stupid people

debate right now the concern with Huawei

is that it provides a backdoor into

China and while my understanding is that

per tick

there-there carrier-grade like their

backhaul great equipment has never

actually been demonstrated to do that

send data back to China yeah it has been

noted that it's not particularly well

coded so that's one thing and the main

concern seems to be that Huawei has

essentially a state-run company as many

of them are over in China would be at

the mercy of the Chinese government add

such functionality in the future should

they decide that they require it so

that's to be the concern another major

concern I've heard again not should I

get political just talking about things

I have heard on the interwebs is

Killswitch stuff if there was to be a

conflict of some sort mm-hmm and you

could just turn off the other person's

communications or a significant part of

it I know there's other layers and stuff

but if you could turn off a significant

part of the communications that would be

a pretty big deal okay so that seems to

be like the major concern with using

Huawei communication far as I know yes

okay so can I can I propose an

alternative viewpoint mm-hmm why should

anyone else be comfortable using

American equipment or anyone else's

equipment for that matter no

particularly American equipment is

China's record for spying on its

citizens that much worse I don't know I

don't know I don't know I have no idea

no clue to be clear as far as knowledge

yes it is worse but as a foreign

national so I'm neither Chinese nor

American should I be comfortable with

either of these options

anyway so US President Donald Trump back

to the decision saying it will prevent

American sorta chatter Luke prevent

American technology from being used by

four known entities in ways that will

potentially undermine US national

security or foreign policy interests so

separately the President signed an

executive order declaring a national

emergency barring the use of

telecommunications equipment made by

companies that are deemed to be a threat

to national security didn't in China or

Chinese companies specifically but this

clears the way for an outright ban on

products made by Huawei Huawei has said

this decision is in no one's interest

which and it will do significant

economic harm to the American companies

with which Huawei does business affect

tens of thousands of American jobs and

disrupt the current collaboration and

mutual trust that exists on the global

supply chain powerpoints probably to go

back to your should you trust him trust

American ones either and to tie back

into my can you trust anyone's

thingamajigger sure especially if you're

just a civilian

chillin talking to your buds if you're

you probably shouldn't trust these

communication layers super deeply at all

regardless of who's running some of the

backend hardware because of how easy it

is to spy on and tap in on these things

it's your computer or your phone or

something in between so we've got people

saying that the reason you should hold

on there's due process in America versus

China it's a different story the

government having a stake in the company

all this kind of stuff I mean the thing

is remember you don't really need a

stake in the company to force it to

comply to your laws and while there's

always sort of the way that things are

done traditionally during peacetime

there's a lot of emerge

see powers that can be exercised by the

American government as well in the event

of like declaring a national emergency

or declaring war or whatever the case

may be like if you ever kind of read

into that stuff it's actually kind of

scary the way that they can just kind of

like take land and use it for stuff and

everything yeah so yeah III don't know

property is in everything including not

land to be clear I don't actually

believe that the American government is

on China's level when it comes to the

the monitoring of its population I don't

think they're there I don't thought

they're likely to catch up but there's

well documented cases of Funkytown stuff

that has happened so including in Canada

if you want to hear something really

neato about Canada look up the Canadian

spy palace that's like actually what

it's called you know it's uh should I

trust Canadian telecoms equipment we

have a spy palace who knows yeah I don't

know if it doesn't look like the

fortress of solitude I'm gonna be

disappointed it's actually like quite

stunning it's really it's a really

beautiful building actually I'm looking

it up yeah spy palace its massive and

cost an insane amount of money to a

Canadian scale experience this together

spy palace Canada Canada's top secret

billion-dollar spy anytime you'd be seen

billion dollar and Canada are involved

it's like whoo yeah that's inside yeah

that's the spy palace yeah money fat

stacks

well actually tax dollars hard it what

do we spend Canada's money on spy palace

what up billions of dollars really fancy

staircase screw these citizens let's

talk about the Supreme Court allowing

the antitrust lawsuit against the app

store so this is okay I wish we had John

here because he was gonna talk to about

me stay legal stuff but there are few

thing

I dunno so one is that this doesn't mean

that Apple has been found guilty or that

they they have to open up alternate app

stores for on the iPhone or anything

like that all it means is that the

Supreme Court voted five to four on

Monday to allow the antitrust lawsuit to

proceed so it hasn't been won yet and

basically the lawsuit is this they're

accusing Apple of maintaining a monopoly

on iOS apps via the App Store now this

case was dismissed back in 2013 but the

Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit

allowed it to return in 2017 and Apple's

pushback brought it to the Supreme Court

though only to decide whether it can

continue not the final outcome so it's

related to a 2011 case arguing that with

the App Store being the only place for

iOS downloads you're stuck with

artificially inflated prices which is a

pretty valid point with that said Apple

argues that developers set the prices

and that it's not in violation of any

antitrust laws so by paying its

Commission developers are buying a

package of services which include

distribution and software and

intellectual property and testing now

with that said they are obviously

maintaining a monopoly and they are

setting the pricing of the distribution

of software and intellectual property

and testing bla bla bla bla bla and

apples price is thirty percent which is

not insignificant and a hundred dollars

a year oh yeah I guess we're launching

an iOS app soon I mean yeah so did we

pay that already or is that just coming

soon the hundred dollars yeah

technically it hasn't been paid yet but

it will be very soon neat

oh yeah floatplanes launching it out

soon yeah hey so and they called me

already and like things are moving

forward so it should be ready a lot

faster than we suspected so if Apple

loses the case it might be forced to not

only allow third-party app stores but to

pay up to triple in damages as a

deterrent okay so this is a good thing I

have a question I don't know legal stuff

I don't think either of us do so be

ready for a whole bunch of ignorance to

come out of my mouth but they're

essentially a marketplace right

so put in the marketplace mm-hmm could

someone get mad at us and say that we

have a monopoly on floatplane creators

be able to join the platform and say

that someone else should be able to run

a Marketplace on floatplane as far as I

know no but I think that you would have

a harder time because they sell the

phone so the thing is that flow plane

has competitors like theirs Android so

yes there's Android but I think once you

reach a certain scale there the way that

antitrust laws work is that you're not

allowed to monopolize like anything

that's too big and so I think you could

probably make the argument that iOS

users are kind of their own jam now

that's obviously part of the argument

that's gonna be made but I think Apple

is gonna come back and say well yeah you

could just buy an Android phone yeah

okay okay yeah so you could go after us

for that but you'd get rekt because

there's many competitors and for them

like leaving the ecosystem of iOS is

probably so difficult that you might be

able to argue in damaging and damaging

they may be also argue that it's a

monopolize review okay interesting

I think what do you think this would

actually be pre damaging to the

appearance of iOS and Apple personally I

think that this would be damaging to the

iOS ecosystem in general

I absolutely fully support Apple

maintaining their lock down on the App

Store to be perfectly honest it might

not be a popular view it's been very

annoying for us trying to get on to it

because it takes a lot longer getting on

to the Google store is like oh you got

an app yeah put it on the truck cool

you're in iOS store there's you have to

go through this lengthy application

process and then when you go to upload

your app they have to review it for a

long time in buh-buh-buh but it lines up

with the clean and pristine kind of idea

that iOS and Apple is and has so I don't

know so yeah this is really good from

laser bolt monopoly doesn't necessarily

mean there's only one company it just

means they could

scroll the market someone brought up in

here yeah is the PlayStation online

store monopoly maybe

so if Apple loses this and maybe so this

is really interesting this has a huge

impact for for software marketplaces

everywhere now I would say steam is not

especially now I mean five years ago who

maybe but right now steam is not a

monopoly because game developers can go

to you play or they can go to epic game

store

I know it sorry I can go to you play

they can go to epic game store though

they go do you play did you play take

third-party oh I don't know yeah origin

does okay it's pretty clear steam is not

a monopoly but there are definitely

situations like the PlayStation where

that would be a very very similar

situation Nintendo to Nintendo is such a

walled garden yeah people that some

people are saying you can buy

PlayStation keys from elsewhere you

still have to use the store so does it

matter maybe it does matter I'm not sure

I don't know maybe that'll be maybe

Sony's lawyers thought that that was

enough a good protection for this I

don't know cuz this has clearly been

going on for eight years now yeah yeah

whole thing's really interesting I don't

know anything about legal stuff alright

so I think it's time for me to go play

some video games are you staying for

tonight yeah

oh nice okay well yeah but we should

definitely talk about some LTX stuff

also

ltte store calm oh wait no water bottles

i think are out of stock but hats hats

yeah yeah yeah cuz john was wearing one

so the hats are pretty nice well yeah

ltte what's really cool and i'm sure

some people are gonna actually don't

wear hats this way I usually wear them

like this but because I'm an idiot

deal with it so it keeps my neck from

getting burned oh yeah anyway so these

were to keep this under these are one of

the first merch items we've ever done

civically designed to not have - tech

tips on it anywhere hero out some of you

feel better yeah - tech tips is not on

this and the reason for that is that

LTTE is gonna sort of be becoming its

own brand oh yeah

so we just you interest we want the

merge like aside from stuff like this

that's like clearly commemorative of

like a video

aside from stuff like this we want the

merch to just be stuff that you might

actually want to wear yeah actually

wanna like use yeah so we're gonna start

to do a little bit more stealthy stuff

like this so this is the first okay I

think that makes sense or if you want to

wear a hat that like just kind of looks

cool cuz with this if someone doesn't

know that this means line effectives

they're not probably gonna worry about

it yeah they just won't care yeah

whatever he's wearing a hat we've had a

lot of people ask for a black one with

orange LTTE that will come at some point

the reason that we did it this way was

that we really couldn't get the orange

right it didn't look good so we are

sticking with we're sticking with the

single color ones for now so it's blue

black blue and we debated this earlier

is this maroon or burgundy I don't know

what marine looks like alright I'm gonna

vote with Burgundy everyone said

burgundy so I'm assuming you said marine

I did but I forget what maroon looks

like I think it's more Brown I think

it's more pertinent I think I was wrong

um so ltte store.com we also need to

what's up what's up oh yeah that wasn't

that far off that's kind of maroon e

what's burgundy hey hold on we gotta get

Luke screen on over here so Luke's

looking looking that's maroon in the in

the corner honey you're on a razor blade

stealth so like who knows what it

actually looks like ah that's pretty

burgundy if that tie this be ads these

are all different color whatever I'm not

even mad okay let's see if we have an

update on LTX they're supposed to update

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are I feel really bad but they were the

only ones that at that free geek ad that

were like all the same way they're in

really bad condition if that helps at

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yeah it does but like I saw this like

pallet of them and I was sad oh those

are really nice we're gonna try and

salvage one and use it for like a mod or

something but like though the cases from

last year was so rude you know no I know

no I mean before okay looks like alright

thanks for watching guys see you again

next week same bad time and blah that

channel oh shoot I got the sizing I'm

sorry I'm just adjusting it's like way

too big for me

it was too small alright you know when I

was a kid I was this kid with like the

the tuft sticking out of the front of

the Hat this was like there that was it

this is my style yeah I could see yeah