YouTube Copyright OUT OF CONTROL - WAN Show Feb 15, 2019 #Helpful Post

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welcome back to the man show it's been

another week which means you have to sit

through another win show that is to say

you want to sit through another Rancho

because no one is actually forced to sit

through the wine show except Luke and

you and me yeah yeah have you heard this

song there's this I didn't think about

it until you just did that intro there's

a someone made an electronic song

recently using like our voices as some

of the lines in the song and he intros

the song with you entering the wine show

no I have not heard the song he tweeted

it your personal account you should oh

okay I haven't actually looked at my

personal Twitter inlay I suspected kind

of as much probably a couple of weeks oh

so we're just linked it in chat

apparently people nice okay give me just

just a note here I gotta get logged into

floatplane so I can see our floatplane

peeps one of the things one of the

things we're gonna talking about this

week is YouTube's copyright being kind

of kind of craziness yeah but actually a

fairly positive story from it at least

turn around so there's a there's a

couple of actual two so I was really

what I was wanted to do was explain the

difference between a Content ID match

ending copyright strike okay because

there seems to be a lot of confusion and

there was that a Content ID match there

was a significant well it depends which

controversy you're talking about because

there was a controversy we were wrapped

up in oh yeah I didn't know this yeah so

well we'll get into that a little bit

later writing and then in terms of other

topics James has been busy shooting the

monoprice gaming battle station video

with me for the last couple of hours so

he's done very little actual preparation

of the land show documents today some

stuff but there is some stuff Activision

Blizzard laid off 800 people just like

what 10% of their staff 8% excuse me

pardon me so spending as far as I know

very good profits yep so we'll talk talk

more about that later and what else we

got a European link tax language has

been finalized

linked taxes so YouTube's copyright

enforcement is probably gonna get more

complicated as opposed to less

complicated if all of that stuff goes

through so this is closely related to

the article 13 controversy that was

going on a couple of months back the

13th stuff is still going on oh yeah

yeah very much very much still a thing

this is just sorry I mean it was it kind

of reached a fever pitch my article 13

pitchforks are pretty important for me

so keep them up if you wouldn't mind

yeah if you want to make Luke's job not

like phenomenally way more difficult

it's gonna the biggest problem in my

opinion even though I'm trying to become

a platform I still think the biggest

problem in my opinion is for creators

because it's going to increase the wall

for creators coming into the market it's

going to make creators lose their jobs

because it's going to be harder for the

platform's gonna cost more for the

platform's to support themselves I think

it's gonna be harder for the creators so

we'll talk about it in more detail later

for the intro I saw this coming and I

don't know why the way you said the

intro is like he's not gonna click it

right away don't know what

no ide

the guy's the best boss respond it's

like if I'm them I'm like I don't even

know alright alright so the first thing

I want to jump into is actually the you

were gonna do Wow we're gonna do the

title topic right now yeah it's amazing

this has never been done before probably

first in a while um so I'm gonna I'm

gonna try and find it on the forum I'm

not logged into the forum there's

reasons for that basically security

security privacy reasons for that yeah

but it just makes it harder for me to

find this particular thread bla bla bla

bla bla bla

Oh seriously oh man what was what was

the search term I think it had I'm

pretty sure it had strike and Linux in

the threads somewhere so let's go ahead

and let's go find that pattern actually

do we wanna do we want to talk about the

you know let's talk about what happened

to Kyle Kyle one yeah so Kyle's Kyle's

our bud you know what we'd be we'd be on

Team Kyle regardless of you know whether

he was right or not just kidding we

wouldn't actually if Kyle was wrong we

would say he was wrong we have that kind

of relationship we'd be like Kyle and

Lyle y'all are both wrong so y'all need

to just back down you know anyway so

here's what happened I should preface

this by saying it has been resolved yeah

so here's a tweet from Kyle from two

days ago good news and update my counter

notification to Vox his claim was

reviewed by YouTube in my favorite the

reaction videos back up so a couple of

months back

Kyle posted a video on his bit weight

YouTube channel also on Flo plain

reacting to the Verge's should we call

it a don't see building guide it also

never came off of flow plea but yeah

that's a whole separate conversation

you'll get to that later

yeah so to the Verge's pc building guide

that was

just phenomenally poorly done like it

turned into just a instant legendary

level mean you don't use tweezers and a

Swiss Army knife to build your computer

and I never wear a LIVESTRONG bracelet

computer wearing a computer building a

computer just contained a ton of at best

dubiously correct information and hope

your computer case has rubber feet below

the power supply or else you might you

know you might get shocked yeah it was

bad it was really really poorly done

anyway so he went into this character

that he calls Lyle

because fun fact kyle is half asian

which i actually didn't know until one

at one point I'm super tactful we're

like at dinner I'm like so what

ethnicity are you cuz I could I just

couldn't tell in fairness to me he's

mixed so it's not like I was you know if

I was gonna guess you know pureblood

anything then I was gonna be wrong

regardless okay yeah anyway he's like no

I'm half asian like oh okay cool anyway

so that's why he's allowed to do this

character which for anyone else to do

would be incredibly racist

so he's this sort of he has this kind of

heavily Chinese accented Lisle character

that he uses to kind of provide broken

English feedback on various things in

this case he did a reaction to the

Verge's PC building guy it's actually

very funny no offense to anything else

kyle has ever done but it was by far the

best video he's ever created bar none I

mean it helps that the source material

that he was working with was comedy gold

absolutely and he all he had to do was

platinum plate it and it was just like

yeah wow this is just this is quality

and if you're good it is back up on his

YouTube channel or it never went off of

his flow page yes thank you for bringing

that up to the second time kind of know

whatever your name is like I got you

yeah that's that should be your

alternate character kook I don't know

what accent you can do that

nothing politically correct for sure

yeah okay so in the day so let's go back

in time again in the days following the

verges original upload there was just

massive backlash throwing the see

building community we mostly I think

stayed out of it I think we posted a

couple tweets just a tongue-in-cheek but

lots of people quite a few people posted

like video responses there were some

pretty there was some pretty in-depth

discussion on our forum about it just

because it was so bad anyway the verge

stood by it for a while that was weird

which was what made it far worse if it

just said hey we were wrong cuz they

honestly rather than make fun of them my

first outreach to them was some hope do

you guys want to collaborate to take

another shot at this and I and they just

never replied so they never replied to

just an earnest offer of help and then

they doubled down and the the the the

creator of the video in particular said

some pretty stupid stuff on Twitter I

don't remember any of the particulars

because it was a while ago but just

basically defending it like oh yeah well

you know we fixed those things after the

video like don't call it a guy yeah it's

not a guide if it was broken at the end

it was like actually problematic because

it was a guide yeah which which added a

lot of problem it wasn't like hey I'm

building a computer you want to watch it

was this is how if they had made

mistakes in the context of doing like an

IRL twitch stream yeah which we saw very

recently uh everybody has to everybody

does something for the first time and

doesn't do it perfectly at some point

believe it or not like if you've ever

watched me do anything related to my car

you'll know know what's up I don't think

you have but it's bad it's a bad scene

I'm better that kind of stuff yeah we're

like watching me use tools I mean you

wouldn't know you're just as bad as me

but I use a lot of them for the first

time with you

remember they steer with the tape the

tape protection it's a good thing we

both still have both of our eyes yeah so

so what made it worse was just not

acknowledging the problems and doubling

down and then making it even worse than

that

here we are these months later so Roy

was kind of forgotten yeah the verge did

eventually pull their video yeah not

before they like hid the like/dislike

bar hid comments like they tried

everything to keep it up

but eventually they were just like yeah

this is probably a problem and pulled it

down then what happened is earlier was

it earlier this week what's the actual

date on this ah

February 12th February 12th they issued

a copyright strike so they issued a DMCA

takedown request for Kyle's video so not

only did Vox media the owner of the

verge yeah go and have the video removed

from their own channel which is well

within their right to do and probably

for the best

they went out and they submitted a

takedown request for Kyle's video now

here's the problem with that were you

keeping track of what was going on with

Ethan Klein and that reaction video that

he posted that he ended up taking all

the way to court it's been a bit but I

watched the the I watched all of the

lawyers videos on watch this video sorry

for those who some people take three oh

yeah yeah yeah so anyway Ethan flying

h3h3 yeah anyway yeah so so what

happened there and I'm a little rusty on

the details but but basically what

happened was HTH we used to upload a lot

more just kind of what do I call them

they like like watch a video and like

cringe on it like yeah reaction like

takedowns like just like bait where they

just kind of crap on the original video

creator and so what happened in that

case and I forget what the name of the

of the person who issued the takedown

was and it doesn't matter because screw

that guy we're not gonna talk about that

guy who'd cool but he got upset because

Ethan was mean to him and in his defense

Ethan was pretty mean and it was like

back then used to be pretty brutal yeah

like just kind of unnecessary but I

guess it gets you so cool um anyway he

got mad and he was like well hold on a

second

Ethan's video contains a ton of my

copyrighted material I should be able to

DMCA takedown that because it's got my

content in it the issue is that there's

a little thing called fair use

so Ethan's defense was we'll look this

is fair use because I am critiquing it I

am so there's four there's basically

four fair use factors so you can use

someone else's copyrighted material as

long as you can you can defend your sort

of fair use use of it now the problem is

that fair use is a really gray and

nebulous part of copyright law it's not

as simple as like if you meet criterias

X Y Z and Omega you qualify as fair use

and there are some guidelines so you'll

notice for example I forget what the

actual number of seconds is but news

shows will often limit the amount of

source material that they use to like

ten seconds or something along those

lines but that's not the law cuz like it

consider if you just posted like a half

hour video that someone else made and

every 45 seconds you win good that's not

really transformative that's not really

like not really review so like yeah

where is the hard line it's a very hard

line to actually yes so so there's

there's a number of things there's the

amount and the substantiality of the

content that has been reused so that's

why news programs will take like ten

seconds because then it's not the whole

thing's pretty easy to argue there's the

purpose and character of the use does it

have its own

purpose for existing there's the nature

of the copyrighted work so if it was

something along the lines of a let's say

an instructional video and you were to

go ahead and take each step of the

instructions have it be up on screen

running in its entirety and go that

seems like a good idea like kind of like

what Luke was saying then that would

sort of affect whether or not that would

be considered fair use and then finally

there's the effect upon the works value

which is closely related where if I were

to create this my video commenting good

job original video creator every once in

a while while it plays would that affect

their ability to monetize that content

probably so you so you can end up with a

really solid fair use argument for

utilizing all kinds of content like

movie review channels rely heavily on

fair use because in a lot of cases

they'll have five ten fifteen minutes of

unedited like Hollywood movies playing

on the channel but the reason they can

get away with that is that they are

reusing it for the purpose of critique

they are commenting on it and it doesn't

affect the ability of that Hollywood

studio to monetize that content because

no one is watching that review and going

oh I have fully enjoyed all the nuances

of the editing cinematography soundtrack

acting and story it's not like that yeah

so it's highly transformative it's for

critique or review which is generally

pretty well protected by fair use the

nature of the copyrighted work here is

movie so that's very separate from how

it's being used and it the effect on the

works value is arguably very little now

the problem with all of that is it's all

grey and fair use rather than being just

a hard-and-fast law is an argument that

you have to defend in court so if

someone issues a DMCA takedown the only

way to dispute it if you say no this is

fair use and they say um actually it's

not is to take the

to court and have the courts agree with

you so now this has been a very long

story we're finally coming back to the

issue with h3h3 s critique video of this

weird guy's video that he uploaded that

was done he won basically so even though

he had uploaded almost the entire

original video and was just kind of

interspersing his reactions to it that

was still considered critique and it was

still considered transformative a

reaction video was deemed to be original

content even though it was heavily

dependent on the original copyrighted

work alright so how does this figure

into Kyle's thing basically Vox media

pulled a full douche move here and

issued a DMCA takedown for what has been

maybe not proven but at least

preliminarily tested by the courts to be

a fair use rebroadcast of a copyrighted

work and the only reason I can think of

that they would do that aside from just

just being embarrassed and acting out of

sort of like initial knee-jerk reaction

which they clearly didn't because it's

been a couple months been a while yeah

is either because they are ignorant of

this sort of pre-existing case or

because they are just trying to bully

and intimidate a much much smaller

outfit into just not disputing it

because they're afraid that if they do

dispute it the next step is court fees

neither of those are great and honestly

I mean I can't I can't speak to the

mindset of the executives at Vox media

or whoever it is that ultimately decided

to do this but my gut feeling is that

they were just going peer intimidation

factor because I can I can tell you guys

as someone who was a much smaller yet

like we're at a point now where if

someone came after us like an h3 we

could say okay

see you in court buddy fine that's

it's gonna be how it's gonna be let's do

it stance but there was a time when we

weren't and I remember getting these

kinds of you know strikes or Content ID

notices and being like is this it is

this the end of this company because

that's what it would have been it's

really scary it's absolutely scary and

it's been happening to people where it

has resulted in being at the end of them

in regards to being a content creator so

he's on that platform basically

currently the verge has an official

response

do they really yo know Yolo snail I do

not think we have seen their roof oh I

would love to see do you want to fire

that up while I go ahead find it yeah

yeah I was gonna finish up a couple

thoughts so so basically this leaves the

the the DMCA takedown system open to

abuse by copyright owners who just want

to in some cases just remove something

that they don't like so here's one

pewdiepie got copyright strike by

because a twitch streamer took offense

there was one youtuber who was

extraordinary

that's funny even not through YouTube's

system we had some copyright holder for

some like classical sheet music in

Germany come after us demanding I think

it was like $10,000 or something stupid

like that for a song that we used in a

video that was actually from YouTube's

music library this is a couple years

back a few years back and I was super

upset because I was like okay I don't

really understand how this works in

international music copyright law crazy

complicated because they're separate

copyrights for the performance for the

original sheet music and and I was like

I was looking at it going well this is

this is ridiculous because I'd be happy

to pay some kind of fee because yeah we

did use the sheet music but ten thousand

dollars or whatever it was like that's

extortionate like we we made a fraction

of that off the Adsense of the video and

the sponsors that we insert it into it

how can you possibly expect me to pay

you more than I made well then you

shouldn't use the song in the first

place ultimately we just didn't pay

because we kind of figured some Rando

holding company like copyright holder in

Germany what are they gonna ultimately

do to us like fly their lawyers out here

and make come on you gotta be kidding me

and they didn't end up following it up

but we were again we were in a position

where we could afford to take that risk

you want me to go ahead and screen show

you sure all right it's basically a big

wall of text so there isn't a ton for

you guys to look at but what they're

saying is the legal team Vox media's

legal team who was very diligent and

protective of their work was made aware

of some PC video reactions stuff and

fire did not meet our standards and had

oh oh oh that's sorry uh so they pulled

their stuff okay

yeah okay I misread that cool yeah yeah

I know that comment was actually totally

fine apparently it was it was two videos

as far as I know said those two videos

used 90% of our footage without any

edits cuts or other transformative use

and one of particular is featured what

our legal team felt was a pretty racist

character okay necessarily disagree with

that but it's also like none of your

business

but he didn't edit their footage but I

think in reviewing footage that's

probably the more respectful thing to do

and he cut himself in which is probably

exactly what should have been done

anyways there was also a complaint I

don't remember exactly where they said

it of where everything could have been

avoided if they just reached out to this

person how would I know to reached out

to nyle a patel yeah okay

and besides here's something you know

what no hold on a minute okay nyle e why

didn't you reach out to Kyle if you had

a problem a lot of times to be

completely honest and you don't want to

use it all that often but being a

creator

sometimes Twitter is like one of your

most useful things yeah because things

don't get done and then you tweet about

it then it gets done very fast or better

yet you could just a guarantee Kyle has

an email address on it

YouTube channel that you can use to

email and 99% of the medium-to-large

creators that I've been made aware of do

have such a thing I'm just I'm curious

now but anyway I'm gonna throw it back

on your screen so you're sharing yeah so

the specific quarter but that part is I

want to address a situation around some

YouTube copyright strikes since since

retracted which is true as far as I know

issued by the verge and Volks media that

have gotten pretty toxic and could have

been avoided if the parties involved had

simply reached out to me directly again

there was the 90% of our footage without

any edits cuts or otherwise

transformative use and one of them

featured a particular that the legal

team said was a particularly a racist

character again I don't think anyone in

any form of review would want to edit

the original footage I don't think

that's the point at all how Kyle does

not have an email on his YouTube page he

does have an address though and he does

have his Twitter so yep you're right

Twitter would have been the way to go

here alright pretty easy I bet you Miley

has a Twitter YouTube notified the two

channels in question said said there was

a chance our requests wouldn't make it

through and our legal team asked our

legal I was looking for their cases our

team made the case YouTube agreed the

videos were not for Houston issue the

strikes when this was brought to my

attention a few hours later I told them

that although I fully agreed with their

legal argument I did not think we should

use copyright strikes against legitimate

channels even if we thought the videos

crossed the line and again I fully agree

with our legal team that these videos

cross the line of fair use so basically

they Wow okay so basically they haven't

learned anything

yeah so here's the thing whether or

whether or not like it does this does

this post actually say that their

lawyers felt like the character was

racist because that has nothing to do i

oh it does but i don't think that was a

reason for the action okay so i don't

think it actually applies it does say

that

our legal team felt this was not fair

use and oh yeah ah those two reactions

okay which are legal what our legal team

felt was a pretty racist character yeah

but you don't get to you don't get to

just let your personal sensitivities get

involved in a legal issue you know so

whether or not it's fair use actually

doesn't really have anything to do with

whether you like the character being

portrayed or not yeah also I mean

there's a whole there's I mean we could

have a whole conversation that I'm it's

probably best that I personally stay out

of about whether or not it's a racist

character if the person happens to be of

at least partially the race that they

are making fun of I mean are you gonna

tell me that like a Jewish comedian is

not allowed to make Jewish mother jokes

for example are you gonna are you gonna

say that it seems pretty it seems like

kind of a dumb thing to say what does

have strong evidence in here of

straight-up

screenshot emails is technically in here

it doesn't say because he blurted out

his email which is or her sorry I don't

actually know who this is

but it blurred out their their email so

I'm not a hommerson sure it was them but

that doesn't matter it looks like

someone from a at Vox Mediacom email

account retracted the copyright

infringement so it wasn't YouTube that

agreed with Kyle it was clearly someone

from Vox retracting the claim okay hold

on a sec Meridian in the chat I got to

disagree with you an Asian faking an

accent of another Asian that can't speak

English in the normal way is just as

racist as if a white guy did it

lulz but that has nothing to do with

legality here it's actually not racist

is to do with race making fun of

someone's accent yes it's rude it's

really rude yeah but there's but it's

not race yes with yeah without art yeah

so let's just let's just make sure that

we're not getting our terminology wires

crossed here it's not accent as where

you're from yes or in some cases not

even yeah cuz you could make my wife is

not from

most assuredly speaks with a westcoast

Canadian accent like where you spent

your formative years most of what to but

to say that it would be like yeah

again the strikes were retracted at my

specific instruction that seems to be

true not through any YouTube dispute

process also seems to be true the verge

has written many times with the problems

of YouTube's copyright enforcement

mechanism and I do not think it works

well enough for us to use it in cases

like this ok one thing I did not do was

tweet about it because I didn't think

the nuance of this situation would lend

itself to tweets and are we still

reading this garbage sure oh and also

quite honestly because I didn't think it

was a big deal there were strikes and

strikes were retracted I assumed

everyone would move on

well this article is not making it

better just just if you want my two

cents and just we don't sending us wait

wait hold on if we have these words on

screen is this pure use get the words

off the screen not a racist character

there but oh we got it we got a big

problem there but I think the problem is

you're just 10 ply button Oh nobody

oh jeez yeah oh man I guess ok we're

done here I mean we can be reading it

out directly is probably gonna be I

don't know who knows okay so what I was

gonna say is that there were strikes the

strikes were attractive things yeah yeah

but they weren't retracted immediately

and they were retracted very quickly I

will 100% give you that if you're

watching what you're probably not but

they weren't retracted immediately and

strikes or a direct attack yes on

someone's income and stability three

strikes and you're out Kyle just bought

a house yo he certainly did Gary and

strikes also immediately affect your

channel one strike can't live stream

yeah

just like that like it's it's it's a big

problem it's not okay yeah that's a

that's it's an attack it is straight up

an attack and the other thing too is

that there are alternatives to copyright

to DMCA taking down something that don't

result in a strike like doing the thing

that you said at the beginning of your

article of reaching out directly to Kyle

yeah

that's an option but I don't know he's a

pretty racist guy they probably don't

want to talk to him well can be mean

yeah Lyle Lyle's of rude dude the

Verge's youtube channel has since been

brigaded with dislikes and nasty

comments and there are now death threats

we have to think about here's one good

luck staying alive the internet doesn't

forget just to be super clear about that

one 99% sure right the site and the

YouTube channel not you think you're

okay

at least with that one allowed that's

the only one shown here so at least with

that one yeah there's all pretty

disappointing blah blah blah blah simply

ask me about it you should have asked

him about it yeah before attacking I

hope everyone involved can take a moment

and think about making sure they

actually know what they think they know

and the value of communicating directly

instead of just simply reacting just as

gold

the end of that was just gold I just I

don't even think I need to talk about

that part that's just oh that's good

that's that whole oh man

ending it with that was great thank you

that was fantastic

oh man

I couldn't have like oh yeah I don't

even know I couldn't have requested a

better last paragraph alright so now

let's move on to a controversy that I

woke up to on the forum this morning

this is I'm very interested in this

because I have not heard of it so this

was posted by firelighter for 87 on the

forum the Linux gamer did a response

video to I actually didn't even know

about this video until I found out about

it reading about this

this drama that I was embroiled in on

the forum this morning anyway

did a response video to our Linux gaming

finally doesn't suck video sorry sorry

so sorry can we jump back for a split

second can you jump to my screen I can

apparently this is nily yeah okay cool

it's reckless

I knew his Twitter handle I didn't

actually mean before any of it went

sideways oh it was pretty sideways by

then

Hertha strike on Wednesday when was

Kyle's original tweet did Paul basically

post on Twitter exactly what we just

said you could have also just reached

out to Kyle is that what I saw give me

one second oh boy yeah you're still

screen sharing I think we're fine okay

cool that's the that's the floatplane

stream by the way yeah hold on I want to

see what Paul said at the beginning here

this all could have been avoided if the

parties involved yeah I love you Paul

you're awesome you're awesome good job

Paul oh but yeah so apparently the

strike was pulled back on Wednesday by

nily yeah but it happened on Tuesday

that is really fast turnaround to be

completely honest that might have been

like right when he was made aware of it

to be clear it might have been my mom

that is quite fast turnaround but it

still happened and yeah I don't know

dude doesn't own Vox he's

editor-in-chief of The Verge and that

was Vox lawyers so it might have

happened completely unbeknownst to him I

don't remember exactly what he said

about that in the article but he might

have literally said that I don't know

but yeah we can move on now we can talk

about important context now we can talk

about this video where the Linux gamer

uploaded this thing fullscreen claimed

my Linus tech tips response video so

basically is some people were pretty

upset some people kind of understood it

but a lot of people we're drawing

parallels to the situation between Vox

media and Kyle let's just have a look

here some people were like particularly

mad and see if I can find any of that

blah-blah-blah-blah-blah I'm sorry with

this happen so far this is mostly

discussion of like the content of his

response video and like yeah whether our

video was okay and whether you know

whatever

here's discussion of whether or not we

have any kind of partnership with

fullscreen yes we joined the fullscreen

multi-channel network like four years

ago I forget what the point of it was I

think oh no I think I do remember so we

were actually twitch for a very short

period of time

actually had a youtube MCN so we were

partnered with them and then they like

dissolved that the the the girl who was

in charge of it was there for like six

months and then just like disappeared

one day and I was like oh okay

bye I guess anyway so we joined

fullscreen because some of our buddies

including Austin were with fullscreen at

the time they had a rep that was

bringing them lots of deals in the wire

oh yeah sure yeah I guess we'll be on

fullscreen too and fullscreen had like

kind of a smooth-talking

blowhard guy that was like yeah we're

gonna have like all the tech and I'm

like yeah yeah cool you're an idiot but

like you know whatever my buds are on

there so sure why not anyway shortly

after we joined fullscreen this rep who

had been doing such a great job of

bringing tech deals to other tech

influencers left and like kind of went

direct with those guys and then we just

like never got off it cuz it's gonna

matter so here's something that you guys

might not know once you decouple your

account from so okay just to clarify

wait I'm not sure if I can say the terms

of the deal so I won't say what the

terms of our deal with fullscreen are

but I will say that we signed our deal

at a time when n CMS were much more

hungrily trying to Hoover up creators

and it was at a time when it was

possible to get what's known as a 100

percent deal so nowadays my

understanding is that the MC n takes

anywhere from five or ten or even more

percent of your Adsense views and in

exchange they're supposed to provide a

bunch of services including the one

we're about to talk about as well as

bring you like larger brand deals to

more than make up for that gleaning that

they do off the top but we signed on at

a time when it was possible that MC ends

just to have headline creators on their

networks we're signing people to crazy

deals where they didn't take any share

whatsoever so our deal I can't tell you

what the terms of it are but I can say

that it is such that it doesn't bother

us in any meaningful way

and something that I didn't know until I

switched and seems a couple times was

that you actually lose all of your

historical revenue data from your

YouTube dashboard if you change your MCN

or if you get rid of your MCN and you go

vanilla YouTube so tech quickie and

channels super fun are an actually tech

linked for that matter and - cat tips

are all just directly YouTube partnered

with no MCN and then Linus tech tips is

on the full-screen network but we do

very little with fullscreen they they

bring us very little in terms of like

deals or anything almost an

understatement okay so anyway there's

some speculation in here that we aren't

on the full-screen network we are and

there's also some speculation in here

that they like owned us which they most

certainly do not

yeah that's that's not that's not a

thing linus Media Group Incorporated is

entirely independent and has no

third-party ownership stakes in it

whatsoever

oh okay blah blah blah blah blah blah

it's multi-channel network here's a

video from game theorists good old game

there's good stuff okay blah blah blah

blah and Tian Han will copyright okay

where's the people that are mad I think

it didn't happen until later here we go

I don't know just so mad so mad about

everything

okay whatever you know what I can't find

it right now basically people were upset

because they really just didn't see it

oh that's great okay yeah fine there we

go

right there still not a crime like

perjury which is potentially what Linus

did by bringing down this by having a

Content ID claim against this video what

when did Linus lie under oath during a

court hearing for legal purposes that's

what a DMCA claim is lying under oath

hey you know it isn't but be falsely

reporting a crime is basically what he's

saying but it was an automatic claim

that was actually generated by YouTube's

own Content ID system and yeah so

someone someone got it pretty right here

we go

spotty thank you spotty for this

excellent post here you seem to be

misinformed there's a huge difference

between a copyright strike a DMCA

takedown and a Content ID claim so

copyright strikes come from DMCA

takedowns like what Vox media did with

Kyle's video where their lawyers get

together decide it's racist and not fair

use and contact YouTube and have that

thing pulled Content ID is an automated

system based on like machine learning

and being fed a bunch of known content

that is mostly designed so that like if

you have a bot that automatically

downloads someone's videos and like

reuploads them on your own channel it's

just gonna find that you like that's

garbage and just clean that up

yes and there's a big difference in what

effect it actually has on the channel so

a copyright strike results in your

channel actually getting features pulled

from it and potentially removed if you

get enough of them like live streaming a

Content ID claim what happens

is you get a notification you get an

email that you've received a Content ID

claim and then you get the time step

sometimes you get the timestamps within

the video that that the the Content ID

system has determined are a match for

someone else's copyrighted works then

you get a chance to file a dispute and I

actually didn't know this particular

aspect of it until last week but this is

cool in the event that I write and what

happens is the video actually stays up

you keep all your views you keep your

like dislikes your subscribers or

whatever but the monetization of that

video goes to the original copyright

holder but this is something interesting

if you dispute that claim within a

pretty short period of time and I don't

I don't know if this is actually in

YouTube's Terms of Service so I don't

want to like someone told me so I don't

want to nail them down on exactly what

that is I don't know if they're gonna

change it or whatever else but if you

dispute it fairly promptly and it

doesn't have to be like within the first

hour or anything like that but pretty

promptly what happens is that not only

does the video not go away but you

actually get to take that money back

that was claimed by the copyright holder

in the meantime you don't actually lose

any of your revenue so Content ID did

you have to be pretty quick on that one

it's like days yeah but like don't waste

time yeah basically yeah so so Content

ID is actually a much more benign and

less harmful way of dealing with this

than I think a lot of people necessarily

understand as evidenced by some of the

reactions in the video here excuse me in

the forum thread here because all you

have to do is say no actually I own the

copyright to this or no this is fair use

again knowing though that they could

come back and say actually it's not fair

and it's it's one clarification there is

it's not YouTube coming back it's it's

them

here are some common rental they filed

it originally so if you're like hey this

is actually fine they could just be like

no so there is that power imbalance

there yes but at the very least they

aren't striking you and

really big difference because they're

not damaging okay you might lose the

money that you might have made on that

video but what you don't lose is the

ability to continue to run your channel

yeah um so I think one of the reasons

and the reason for the title of this

stream which actually ended up being

almost entirely about this yeah one of

the reasons that this is coming up so

much right now is that it is my belief

and again I can't say who or where I

might have gotten this idea from because

I don't know if that hypothetical person

is allowed to hypothetically tell me

what I'm a hypothetically about to

repeat okay but it is my understanding

that YouTube has recently made some

changes to the Content ID system making

it more sensitive this is purely

speculation on my part I have no

evidence for this whatsoever but I would

guess that part of this is in

preparation for the changes that are

being made to the article 13 thing

that's happening over in Europe so they

are making content ID more sensitive is

my understanding of what's going on and

this is the evidence that I have for

that is that I am actually getting a ton

of Content ID claims both ways so I'm in

sort of an unusual situation where I own

two one more but two in particular two

YouTube channels that periodically

borrow footage that was originally

uploaded on the other so I actually woke

up the other day with the tech quickie

inbox full of Content ID claims from -

Media Group incorporated on the line is

tech tips channel no son don't do that

so it's actually hilarious oh my god so

anyway back to the whole the Linux gamer

thing I didn't know about the Content ID

claim I wouldn't have given two hoots if

the video did exist I didn't even know

about the I didn't know about the video

until I woke up this morning and the

Content ID claim not only had already

been issued but had already been

retracted

by the automated system I don't remember

I was going with this you can asically I

gave no cares didn't even know about it

and it was already resolved before I was

even aware that there was an issue so

sorry tinfoil hat folks out there

- media group is not in the business of

running around and issuing DMCA

takedowns to people who criticize our

work or create memes based on our

content or otherwise transform what we

do you know we believe very very

strongly in the power of community you

know we have turned criticism of our

content into new content like what we

did with Louis Rossman and his reaction

video to our video card baking piece one

of my favorite videos like on the

Internet is a guy named Nitro blast you

can find on YouTube took a video of my

station just kidding it's a good video

of me whipping a pair of headphones

around and smacking them into the ground

and then stomping on them and then

throwing them against the wall don't you

remember that but it was for these like

activewear earbud review that I did back

in like 2013 Cher and he put the

stomping and the throwing against the

garage door to the Wii the original Wii

soundtrack it's hilarious just go whose

channel probably this seems like more

work than it's probably worth there's

like a hundred oh no this is it Luke

sports tips alright here we go it's

hilarious I love this video

ud MCAS you're done son we're playing

this video and you'll like it

so the headphones fall out

it's the string clip review so each one

it's like the throw and the stomp which

is behind your freaking notification

both have a sound effect buddy

I love this thing because it's me also

we don't have sound right now but I

think it's hilarious and then at the

beginning of this show I talked about

some guy who made a song yeah and in the

song he used our voices and I think it's

great we're not gonna go after any of

that kind of stuff

using our content in tasteful ways is

cool yep and even in not tasteful ways

as long as well within your fair use my

taste I meant ripping it off completely

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basically like done the show at this

point yeah so let's talk about it I want

to talk about it do you want I want to

talk about it you want to do it I wanna

talk about it you can cruise around and

ask questions and I can talk about yeah

yeah okay but you don't worry I'm not

gonna I'm not gonna show it I'm not

gonna show it yeah yeah okay I'm just

gonna I'm gonna sign in as uh whatever

we were having a long conversation cuz

guys we are feeling pretty good about

low-flow plane right now yeah everyone

in the flow plane shot is spamming their

early-adopter emojis nice 10 million pew

pew planes in check oh my god there's

also no rate-limiting on the chats let's

go fast at some point okay we'll get in

touch with night okay we'll get get some

night bot sport going on here it's gonna

take some time though gonna take some

time

oh shoot what's going on here I'm

playing the emojis called pew pew so oh

right sorry I'm on the wrong thing it's

all good man whoa

all right I told chat there's no

rate-limiting and then they took that to

heart a little bit yeah guys come on

chill chill

so we're trying to try to have a stream

here okay what Nick what can I do for

you nothing okay cool no oh LTX update

oh well tax updates holy crap do we have

an update did they do one ah no there's

no there's no LTX update this week but

Wow I have an update for LT X so my

update is that we are gonna be filming

the LT x announcement video that's going

to go on the LTTE Channel we're gonna

film it next week that'll be coming soon

and it will include details like when

you can buy tickets it's coming pretty

look quick fast I'm very very excited

this is not working do you know why this

isn't working

it worked on mine it's just oh it's

working going really slow

oh this isn't on our like actual good

stuff basically okay so this is like our

Pinner server yeah you don't want to

show the front um I could you know what

yeah as long as I don't show this

password then I'm good right yeah so I

could show me copy pasting this past

well just show the front and look around

and this is the front no this is oh that

is that before I sign in how do you get

to that

oh that's before the login page yeah

okay so just take this away okay so guys

don't judge the responsiveness of the

site right now this is running on like

some press on it's on it's on it's it's

on garbage talent like stuff like don't

worry about it it is before the

production okay so there sign in there's

join the girls how the page they can't

see the dot there there you go okay

sorry alright say hello to floatplane

learn more or joy learn more right now

that doesn't doesn't yeah it will scroll

you down yeah this search actually works

but it's a search for channels and

there's no channels in this environment

so not gonna find anything so this is

yours to be like yeah you explain you

explain okay right here there's like a

spindle of tiles that show what

creators are on the site but as there

there aren't any on this like

pre-production version it's just empty

so yeah that will be a thing and then

down here there's just some stuff that

just explains these pictures the bottom

one and the top one of those three are

just photos that Brandon took and then

the middle one is a photo of Brandon

yeah it's just posted Lee it's just a

stylish okay okay alright so now we can

unshare actually read the legal stuff is

that a real link it is hey we have Terms

of Service and stuff now that's awesome

yeah look at that it's been on the site

the whole time it's just it wasn't as

easy to find

you should probably unshare now right

yeah unsure music okay and we're back oh

go away no I don't want to save a

password I love how when you press never

it still prompts you the next time you

do you think okay so if I go to here we

go my home hold on it's like a browse

creators wait where do I go what are you

doing I want our browse creators I want

to go to channel super fun okay yay

actually this one isn't a set up as some

of the other one because they're a lot

you're also not well you're not

subscribed to that one right you sign

into tech wiki so you probably only

subscribe to tech wiki so the other ones

were locked because you don't

information is to see it cool so here's

my home here's some videos so basically

the main new thing that happened on

these pages and this tech wiki page

doesn't have a banner at the top in a

second cuz you logged in to a different

account yeah this one's fine okay yeah

it just shows locks yeah so you don't

have permission to see that content yeah

the main thing that we changes we added

a support column to the far right hand

side so creators gonna be able to start

setting up multiple plans if they would

yeah they would so choose they don't

have to yeah and something we're working

on this is a placeholder I guess a

this is this is not the production

environment put that there

guess AJ I just I don't actually even

know I just wanted to see what it could

be it could be anyone yeah really good I

think I know who it was but I basically

one other thing I don't know what I said

basically another thing that we're

working on yeah as you can see there's a

tech cookie account yes I don't know

when this is gonna be done I don't know

how feasible this is gonna be but we

want you guys to be able to split your

accounts up cool and then there would be

now that we have multiple tiers you'd be

able to subscribe to the tier that has

all of the basic access to all of the

different accounts sure can I poke

around in the CMS - yeah so uploading

videos like works pretty low well these

days - have any videos in here no this I

wouldn't video library one cool thing is

you can go to edit and now there's you

can select what tiers this one only has

one tier cool you can select what tiers

are able to see the thing we've got your

live settings yeah I want to leave don't

go to the other button in there go to

settings I'm not gonna streaming keys

don't worry settings where you can make

your Wow zero one zero one one zero zero

one zero we are robots lorem ipsum

whatever show monthly income you can

turn that on or off that's pretty cool

so yeah so just above where the support

button is yeah it shows like you can

have how many subscribers you have and

how much you make but flow plane isn't

really designed around being a donations

platform it's more of a subscription to

a service so it doesn't fully fall in

line with that so if you want to set up

your account that way you can but by

default we have it off price two

thousand dollars nice you get nothing

nice there we go alright this is gonna

be the start tier awesome

so get rekt here now this year's tier

[Laughter]

now this plan will not be seen publicly

because it's not published yet okay

because we want people to be very

careful publishing a plan is permanent

yeah you will have to contact floatplane

administrators to make certain changes

and that's because they would be I

published it yeah well that's why I'm

contacting the flow can I make some

changes please sir damn it and the

reason for that is to try to protect the

the people subscribing to the creator so

the Creator understands the implications

of just ripping a plan out of out of

people who are currently paying for

something so if we go out of the Creator

CMS we go to the wiki channel oh there

we go and we have to get rekt here yeah

and I believe that all I have to do is I

can like add a card and like this stuff

actually I think the question burning in

everyone's minds now then is when do we

go into beta I I need this stuff in I

need the new upload and transcode

systems I need the support page I need

the FAQ page if stream is gonna get a

little bit better we're working on this

multi CDN thing that's going on it's

it's coming well we'll be there soon

what the the main benchmark for me for

beta is that a few major pain points

need to be solved every video can't have

this new bubble on it

this search thing should probably work

like extremely basic functionality needs

to be in place and we still have a bit

of that I didn't know there was a oh

yeah yeah it doesn't do anything it's

actually been there like the whole time

god never noticed yeah yeah yeah yeah so

the we're actually getting pretty close

and I think the new multi-column layout

and the front page yeah should add a

little bit of good feeling to the site

not being quite as alpha as it was and

we have some more of those types of

things so more on the crater side like

the upload and transcode stuff which is

awesome

like tera let's real talk let's be

honest the way our trans code works

right now is if tech deals uploads one

of his epic 4

or 4k world of warships streams to

floatplane it's like 75 gigs - tek-tips

has to wait like three hours because

everything is done in series so that

that won't happen anymore

so like there's reasons we haven't broad

just brought on a bunch of creators

because there's honestly stuff that's

really ready and then there's stuff

that's not as ready it's one thing to

have a video playback site yeah honestly

Luke could have set that up in 48 hours

in fact three years ago he did yay

it just sucked thanks man the hard thing

is scaling and the really cool thing

about this if you want to play a video

to one person pretty easy yeah well the

really cool thing though is that Luke

has had both the blessing and curse of

having one medium to large scale creator

yeah to use as and really like mad props

to all of our viewers who have who have

been with us genuinely really appreciate

through floatplanes growing pains

because you guys have been the testers

for this not only that you have funded a

significant amount of the development of

this platform indirectly like we're

still we're still burning money like

we're still it's still a startup bit

open oh yeah but it has some revenue and

it has this proof of concept that we

know that the model can work and you

guys have been just an incredible part

of that and making it happen so so

anyway we've had both the benefit and

the drawback of having this scale that

we have to live up to and that has

taught us a lot about how to get

ourselves ready to bring on other

creators there's been some buzz from

some pretty big names around creating

alternatives to YouTube and there was

even one that was supposed to be as far

as I know March by now yeah like a month

ago yeah and it's not if we've learnt

anything about making this platform is

setting launch dates is

scurrying usually doesn't work out and

also that like what we're doing is not

easy and so again like mad props this

time to the floatplane dev team because

what you guys are doing would normally

be done by a team of 3040 people with

fifty million dollars of vc backing like

that's the kind of project we're working

on and so yeah it's taken some time but

because of our amazing community because

of the tenacity of our devs we are

actually finally getting close to being

able to bring on other creators and

start to scale the thing out and because

Luke whose strength really wasn't

organization when I met him understand

and and we've taken a really building

block style approach and the early days

not so much but we learned and we've

taken a really modular building block

style approach to building the platform

that makes it so that we will be able to

scale it when the time comes and add

functionality much more easily then if

you just kind of throw something

together in 48 hours which I was like

Luke strength was grossly

misrepresenting his experience yeah ya

know the funny thing is that Luke oh we

had a freeze on OBS so if people are

complaining about a freeze in the stream

someone in spamming I need notification

alright sounds good dude go turn on your

settings oh yeah notifications are

working they technically exist there's

improvements that need to happen to

those just like almost everything else

but but if they technically exist if you

go into settings you can set on push

notifications or email notifications per

creator yeah oh should we talk about the

our community's gonna freak out about

this well Paul just messaged me and said

we should look into his conversation

with nyle a so I think we should almost

dive into that a little bit more almost

okay we can talk about it's not ready

yet

so there's been some requests for flow

plane stop there's been a lot of

requests for flow planes a lot more open

source stuff there's also been a lot of

for apps to exist and other things and

one of the members on the team that I

don't know if I'm he's been on the team

definitely long enough for me to say his

name but I don't know he wants his name

to be public so I will say it yet I will

figure that out later and then no later

but has been working on setting up the

base of our mobile apps and then we're

going to be working on making it open

source so people can contribute to them

if they would like but we're trying to

get the base really solid first and then

open the API and do some other things

like that so people can be able can work

with that if they would like it's not

necessarily about trying to save work or

trying to save money we were definitely

willing to do it ourselves

it just was gonna take longer and we've

had a lot of members of our community go

like hey honestly I just love to help

with this so that I could just have an

app there's people that have more like

just made one so and I'm like okay

that's actually like really cool

impressment stuff but no so so yeah

we're running down that path like if

there's gonna be third-party support for

this initiative anyway we just want to

make sure that we're doing it properly

yeah

and so so this is this is a way for us

to get something done faster and at the

it's the weirdest thing give the

community what they want which seems to

be to help us out which is weird but

like but you guys are cool you guys are

awesome so really really excited about

that do you want to pull up Paul's

Twitter conversation there oh sure

give me one second what is Paul joining

floatplane well he he wants to we just

need to be ready oh yeah so it's us yeah

yeah oopsy looking that up why did I do

a couple super chats cuz I saw a couple

of ridiculous ones come in biking with

Panda what kind of name is that love

from the open ZFS team I hope Luke

becomes a platform Sunday can you send

me some jerky and coffee thanks guys

that was a disjointed message thank you

for that Wow I Katan 11 says I love you

guys content been watching you for years

thank you you rock Jonas it's got

floatplane last weekend first time

watching on floatplane it's so good

there weren't thanks flag boy copyright

in America is nuts big companies soon

youth groups huh Wow really like

cheerleaders dancing winter guard etc

for hundreds of thousands of dollars

because they use their music oh really

yeah wow that's rough oh yeah I don't

know I don't know about the hundred

thousands of dollars thing

I don't know about any of the values but

there's been tons of tons of stuff yeah

The Insider says they got banned by the

The Verge PC build guide creator guy

Stefan so yeah no I believe they were

just like blocking people on Twitter and

stuff like that so I've even heard of

cases where like a dude was playing a

radio in the back of his shop to

literally just himself but because it

was on a commercial premises they like

tried to hit him with some something a

song was played I remember there's

there's been some like absolutely crazy

stuff I have no idea

wow that's kind of nice Sam the bird

says hey Luke go on a date with me hey

sorry Thunder does games want to go to

LTX but can't get off work oh that's a

bummer well thanks for your support

anyway and we will have like a like a

Virtual Ticket so stay tuned for that

Luke's alter ego says nto cute the

Canuck the world's most stereotypical

Canadian I like it great I'm down uh s

PM says ribs strong Lyle very strong

indeed oh geez oh boy ah PC genius says

love you Luke when his days two cents

coming to floatplane

he's bit I'd that's another one James

wanted to join for a long time it's just

I don't want their entrances to the

platform to be really bad I want it to

be a good experience for the users and

for them and floatplane isn't quite

there yet we're getting really close

we're starting to feel it the front page

is coming on the website we've got the

multi tiers thing having a black page

having what we could have literally done

with Squarespace in 20 minutes yes but

we wanted to do it on our own site and

that kind of stuff it's it's it's coming

along it's coming with the cover pages

feature it basically is the cover babies

anyways David says I sent an email

asking about the VIP ticket for LTX

wanted to know if it included a two-day

pass and Dreamhack b-y-o-see at night I

believe so

yeah I believe so stay tuned I think the

VIP tickets are gonna go really fast

they're like not gonna be cheap they are

hundreds of dollars and I'm sorry but

that's already like it'll already sell

in like an hour yeah they're almost

under it's they're expensive but they're

almost under I don't even know what we

talked about like doubling the price

this yeah just to your party gonna have

to next just to give people who like

aren't sitting there with their finger

on the trigger ready to go a chance to

get one but then we were like no so it's

actually I believe gonna be the same

price as last year it's a hard case

because if you if you don't price it

high enough people are just gonna buy

them way too fast and then there's just

a ton and litter mad the only people

with like watching BOTS are gonna be the

ones that notice it or scalpers are just

gonna buy it if you price it way too

high than you look like a jerk people

will not be able to scalp them oh yeah

because the VIP ticket is personalized

to you the person who bought it okay

yeah I think I'm good for now there's

actually a bunch more yeah sorry guys

there's like actually a lot more but

we're there's we actually need to go

home at some point we went way over time

Jimmy so to do this Paul cenk there's

one person in full in chat who said they

don't have the emote even though they've

been sub since the forum and I recognize

your name and I know that's true contact

support at floatplane calm look at that

teen careful okay she didn't have a

domain now with a support you can see

things are coming along these are cool

okay let's talk to you really quick yeah

sure on your screen okay so we've

already read this first this is

hilarious this this was great I love how

how well it lined up with what we were

saying so Paul said this all could have

been avoided if well oh he's quoting

this all could have been avoided if

they simply reached out to me directly

says nyle a hypocrisy basically because

the same thing could happen the other

way around then he just did a screenshot

of the article yeah moving on do not

there's a few other responses nyle a

response directly hopefully I'm saying

your name right sorry if I'm not it's

not a reality show

none of the stakeholders actually

reached out and again it's reversed this

right I reverse the strike on Wednesday

Paul said did you make any attempt to

reach out to them before having a legal

team take action that affected their

ability to make a living if not saying

they should have reached out to us first

carries zero weight nya Lee says I do

not think our team should use the strike

system no which is why I reversed it

what okay that didn't answer Paul's

question all right that's what he says

he's like you didn't answer my you seem

to not want to admit any fault or accept

responsibility for anything in this

situation so you're blaming your team

for issuing the strike but you're the

one who took action to remove it I

remove the strike I did not make a

series of videos that led to an obvious

coordinated harassment Kim what are you

even talking about but what led to the

coordinated harassment campaign was you

didn't pull your video immediately when

it was obviously horrible and yeah it

was like problematic as it was a guide

Paul said well then you're obviously the

victim here at the mercy of okay

basically what I do to perform a

transfer grid which we activated because

we are evil couldn't possibly be that

you're in the wrong and a bunch of

people agree that based on preponderance

of evidence again I refers to strike on

Wednesday no one no one's saying you

didn't

I appreciate they did that quickly but

no one no one's saying you didn't before

any of this went sideways that the

criticism whatever it is of a thing that

I undid is the other thing that I undid

is the other thing that I ended and the

nature of that criticism is coordinated

and toxic being coordinated no one's

coerced so I'm the the like what's that

what's that app where all the chat we're

all like all the tech youtubers have

this signal account that we all message

well snow it's not an app like it's Wade

no it's

it's it's a big it's ok sauce is pretty

cute it's got a cylinder okay yeah it's

got a cylinder and then there's like

there's like this like this metal kind

of frame piece that goes across the

front sure okay yeah and it stands about

this high so you got the cylinder with

this frame piece on the front here and

then it's got a big light in the back

and you aim it at the sky oh yeah yeah

okay it's got a back tack you two were

under attack come support immediately we

coordinated and toxic attack I am firm

and saying that is unacceptable well I

completely Paul now says well I

completely disagree but thanks for

applying here at least I think everyone

now has a much clearer idea of what your

official stance is on the matter I think

his official stance is that he took it

back on Wednesday we took the original

video down all right so on that note the

man show's over some guys again next

week same bat-time same bat-channel

maybe that's why I always say that

everyone coordinates like something's

happening something to happen he didn't

say the Batman Oh drat yes we're good

bye everyone bye how's a long show yeah

we had something to talk about I know

right

not about that meets you fully see but

they did the right thing they do the

certain coffee striking people months

after the event to remind everyone about

fully under oh man good show

ere's the deal my house was built in

1985 or something along those lines and

these are the original garage door

openers so I was like you know what I

want to get for myself I'm gonna get

myself a nice fancy smart garage door

opener and I bought this unit from

Chamberlain on Amazon for I don't knows

like a few hundred bucks or something it

had good reviews or whatever everything

seemed hunky-dory I got it out I started

opening it up and I'm reading the manual

and I make it all the way to this page

in the manual that refers me to a

website that then I scroll like way down

I click a thing and finally I find out

that the if this then that integration

for Chamberlain's garage door openers is

a subscription service Jake can you be

my can you be my you know expert

consultant here for a minute is there

any reason that if this then that

integration would require a subscription

like a paid subscription a paid

subscription no I don't think so no no

there really isn't so I could afford it

it was only $1 a month

but the reality of it is that

Chamberlain we're gonna do it ourselves

we're gonna take these ancient garage

door openers we're gonna make them smart

with the help of what like 30 bucks

worth of gear off alleys Express Amazon

they got that folks

Animas I got one more for you here this

guy you got this guy

what's this cost I these are like 30

bucks each

all right you probably would have better

off just paying the fee this is gonna

pay itself back in like five years it's

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yeah you can't Oh

so let's start with the highly advanced

system for my garage door openers here

we've got these two doorbell ringers oh

they're not even better ten out of ten

do you even push the button know that

the buttons are loose so if you kind of

jiggle them around they kind of go every

once in a while they just so perfect and

they're definitely very very attached to

the wall Wow you can replace those you

know they're just regular switches look

at your Jake shot me with a Nerf dart

that we started then over here we've

basically got the safety sensitivity

like there's no there's no beam or

anything that's just like how hard it's

gonna push on you and then this is open

and this is closed but like I don't

really a loopy I don't really know what

that is it's like it's dripping grease

yeah do you get that on your car

meanwhile I'm storing this in here with

this like epic garage by the time this

video comes out this will not be in here

by the way guys so so don't break and do

this house yeah please so walk us

through what we've got here the basic

premise is this is a Wi-Fi switch it's

like those buttons over there but

instead it's got some relays here we're

gonna wire this up to your garage door

you just one of them and then you should

be able to just click a button on your

phone and it should actuate this and

that's all you got to do now does it

replace the hardware button it can do

both we can just run it in seriously but

in series but like together with it and

then because this isn't gonna tell us

whether the garage door is open or not

you're gonna have a second thing this is

from a company called roost they sent

this to us thanks for that

and they actually normally make these

for insurance purposes like your parents

your house insurance might require so it

logs like whether it was open or not at

the time that a theft occurred or

whatever yeah so we're just gonna stick

this on the garage door and we should be

able to on the app see if his garage

doors

then we've got this guy so this is a

little bit cheaper does that other one

you up to four yeah it was a four car

garage

rich people but you don't have to use

them for garages it can be like to turn

anything on really okay sure so this one

is just for single yes and then you just

take your micro USB there you go and you

can also just power it with a any five

volt power supply so you can use a

battery or a battery pack and this will

probably last for like months cool well

we're gonna plug it in step one just do

it step one step two magic happen keep

doing it so hold on a second do I need

to like are we even we're not even

getting into any high voltage wiring

here are we no this is literally none

it's 12 volt we need a flathead get a

little excited over there oh my god

that's the og screwdriver yeah I keep it

here now cuz I don't want to like get it

confiscated at the airport or something

that almost happened except this one

time this was amazing so what I did is I

took the bit out of it put it in here

they literally take it out of my bag and

go oh yeah it's a good thing this is

really one I'd have to take it

Oh Saved by the Bell you even for real

right now cuz meanwhile I've got all

this other stuff in here that's pointing

AC / DC 7 234 232 volt 10 amps at 250 AC

or 30 DC sure casual right so just like

all the things yeah okay what's the app

it's called II we link is there is there

is there a paid subscription for that

not ET integration are you sure it's

almost like it's a free API dear user

its dollar a month for IFTTT intergrate

and I'm just kidding it's not is there

somewhere we can plug this in that isn't

up there yeah yeah for sure I'll do over

here OOP ah lights we may put it in the

plastic it's just here while we test it

yeah I just want to not be standing on

top of a ladder while we try to set this

up okay power up the model then press

and hold pairing button for five seconds

until the LED indicator blinks twice and

on repeatedly what does blinks twice and

on repeatedly mean okay

oh yeah is okay make sure your phone in

the model aren't closer enough to Wi-Fi

router found second-generation device

hey hey yeah so if you click one of

those it should you should hear the

relay click hold on wait for it this is

sick yeah like 30 bucks if you only need

one it's lonely I think I checked it was

like nineteen dollars Canadian that's

awesome so now all we need to do is rip

this ghetto stuff I think you should

just leave those and then we can have it

also so if somebody needs to come in

here that doesn't have the app like

couldn't we just put this here and then

just splice in some wire I need to

figure out which ones because otherwise

if we put this up by the garage door

opener I'll grab the wires okay

do you get wire strippers uh yeah I got

wire strippers oh yeah yeah baby you got

lots of strippers oh oh even a little

multimeter you know they make like 1,500

on multimeters I'm sure they do for

people who are far more qualified to use

multimeters than I am I am so excited to

be able to open my garage door yeah like

honestly I'm excited for you sometimes

when I'm working oh my god scare me I'll

even see him there well he's been doing

his martial arts training oh man mini

ninja well I get my butt kicked

didn't leave much slack in those wires

hey

we should be replacing these at the same

time do you have any buttons uh Wow oh

so well that explains like why it's

broken it just fell apart so this just

pushes that onto there like that so you

actually know what we could probably

like fix it pretty easily this might

have just been put back together wrong

oh there we go yeah this is definitely

screwed this was assembled wrong this

was flipped around I think okay well

when I see this button is actually it's

fixed it's like fine now it's not loose

anymore yeah I can just put some hot

glue in and it'll be like fine I think

where's that screwdriver oh why do you

always make me do this it's really tight

every time I work with you I end up

reaching into your pocket frankly I've

had enough you've had enough when I tell

you you've had enough okay all right

maybe just tighten it a little more yeah

that was a nice technique I don't have a

ton of talents but I'm pretty good at

screwing things up every time you see

that wire that you don't want to pick up

just because you're so mad doesn't seem

like there's not a lot that can go wrong

honestly yeah I think it'll probably

work fine knock on wood

but you have to do the knocking it's

your house I think yeah probably do you

don't have to roll on this David this is

awful well you can just check yeah okay

you just go like this and then a light

goes on there you go okay it's one oh no

I meant like which of these three

oh well it's labeled oh is it yeah so

you've got your ground and then you've

got your know you've got NC which

usually stands for no connection I'm

gonna look up this video of this other

guy complicated

I'm in the shower wasn't me no once a

little over there wasn't me

we definitely left way too much wire on

that one yeah and it might actually

bridge that I guess it doesn't really

matter I should be okay

okay so plug it in just put that's it

smart garage door we click it again

before it closes

oh and it pauses and then click Oh have

to go down after that ok so now we just

have to wear the other one up yeah

should we cut let's cut these wires it

looks awful I can do that later ok but

you're never connect I'll do it I'll do

it

the first one that same done daeng

download pending why is this down okay

I'm gonna go stand closer to my access

point here what's going on oh yeah go

for it let's do it you just taking one

it was David's idea nope you have no

devices click to add a new device wait

to hear a beep then click next I'm

assuming there was a beep at some point

there's the beep Oh what are you doing

oh no it's connected so there it is volt

Wi-Fi battery good ok so now we have to

stick this okay so is it what is it like

an accelerometer that are like yeah it

has yeah okay that's cool you should

probably clean this off that's your

cleaning too I mean I have cloths well

oh now I got cobwebs on me Oh anyways

what did he put it on there already I

already wipe it off with my hand are you

doing I just played okay well thanks I

let me clean let me clean my hand off

No okay what would make this perfect is

if it just fell please don't fall off

its gonna make me look really stupid if

it does come on buddy yeah thank you so

that's it now I can control my ancient

garage doors and I can see if yeah heck

yeah we chest-bumping are we high five

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totally

I don't have a ton of talents but I'm

pretty good at screwing things up I mean

I think there can you please make it

seem like I came up with that right on

the spot when he said that's a pretty

good technique there with the

screwdriver I think we were screw these

you were screwing horizontally it would

make me so happy if we could edit that

to make it seem like I'm a lot however

than I am lovely my anticipation is

everyone together no they really are

mean people LMG editors just to

straight-up bad people